Does anyone use a "survival pouch" based on what Wiseman's SAS Survival book recommends?

I pack my DR Pocket Survival Pak along with me one in the house, one in the car, and then when on the trail use somewhat of a "Survival Pouch" that can fit in any daypack. I keep it handy in my car with my large car kit. It can be worn on my belt if I am not toting a daypack or has a sling to be attached. I have a good BOB, but this is sort of something that I "throw" into any daypack I carry along with canteens or Nalgene bottles when off the pavement. I am about fed up with hydration bladders. I am not an ultralighter. The pouch is made to be a utility pouch for hunters and has a sling which can be used with it also.

It contains:

*A US Army mess kit which fits nicely.
The mess kit holds many loose items such as coffee and tea, hot chocolate, gatorade powder, energy bars, small film canister sealed with matches, utensils, spare flashlight batteries and many other things and it slides in nicely to the pouch.

*Coughlan's esbit-type stove and pill-shaped Coughlan's fuel tabs. I found a great way to store extra fuel tabs is to use a round tubular toothbrush holder, the kind used for traveling. I just fill it with the tablets and duct tape it in the middle to seal it.
*Swedish fold-a-cup
*Orange 55-gallon drum liner
*3 ft. of orange duct tape
*space blanket
*orange flagging tape
*sponge
*Smith's diamond-coated honing steel
*small FAK (everything covered on that one)
*haemostat
*dental floss wrapped around every kind of needle you could think of
*wire saw with rings
*6 tylenol extra strength
*my emergency meds
*Immodium
*Claritin antihistamine
*candle stub
*15-20 ft. of stainless snare wire
*Very ample fishing kit (overkill in my opinion)
*salt tablets sealed in ziplock
*Water Purification tabs
*Ferro rod
*P-38 can opener
*Silva map compass
*Small flashlight (varies)
*Extra liner-lock knife (varies)
*Plenty of tinder (I am ridiculously tinder-obsessive practising fire-lighting skills all of the time when out, my daypacks have 5 different kinds - pj soaked cotton balls w/ or w/o magnesium shavings, Coleman fire starter sticks in tin, char cloth in ziplock, cedar bark in ziplock)
I pack and repack along everything else that I can cram into ithe pouch including items that cannot fit into my DR Pocket Survival Pak.


My EDC:

*MkII Photon Freedom Micro light
*Original RSK Mk I knife
*Leatherman Micra
*2 days worth of meds
*pill capsule with emergency meds around neck
*Fox 40 Rescue Howler
*Cell phone
*Red bandana

Alot of the time I have a red Columbia Sportswear neck bag that I put the PSK and a larger multitool and some of these EDC things and more into.

Everyone kill me with criticisms and suggestions, but remember I like this supplemental kit to my Pocket Survival Pak and it works for me. I am not asking for opinions on anything else that I would fit into my daypack or any opinions when it comes to BOBs or carkits, etc, that would be wasting our time. Don't go overboard, I JUST want to work on the contents of a small "survival pouch" (not pack or bag) and find out what I need and don't need when already packing my DR Pocket Survival Pak and EDC.

Some thoughts:

I am open to get a larger OR smaller pouch, I'm not stuck on this one.

Can a aluminum foil mini-loaf pan be used instead of the mess kit to save room?

Has anyone tried boiling water in a empty coffee vaccuum packed bag? If so, how?

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The loaf pan will work, although it isnt as durable as the GI mess kit. If you are looking to shave some weight, you could use a sierra cup instead.

It should be possible to boil water in the coffee pouch. You can boil water in a paper cup over really low heat. The water robs heat from the paper cup and keeps it from burning.

Use a canteen cup for the nalgene bottles to cook ect out of.

Lee

I'll work on that one, might take a while.

It looks like you are covered. No reason to switch to a foil loaf pan, the mess tin is much better. Bulkier and heavier, but a lot of the old style steel or heavy aluminum ones dont' squash unless they are run over by a car, and even then, it isn't a given that they are dead. On the other hand, the foil loaf "pans" always seem to spring a leak when I fold then unfold them. Nifty idea, but in my experince, not so good. Maybe I just need better ones, or it could be an elevated Murphy factor on my part.

If I understand you correctly, it sounds like you want to trim this down without loosing functionality. If I'm wrong, insomnia is to blame.

The are few things I can see to be worth loosing, starting with the salt tablets and maybe the hemostats. What do you have in mind as a role for your hemo's?

Don't bother with a full utensil set, you only need a spoon.

Swap the fold-a-cup for a cup around your water bottle.

If you think your fishing kit is overkill, trim it down.

Is your sponge vacume packed? If not, at least put into a small zipper bag and squeeze the air out of the bag and the sponge.

Coffee AND tea AND cocoa? Pick one, and move some stuff into the mess kit with the new open space.

Rather than the gatorade packets, try Emegen'C. Does't linger, tastewise, in the water bottle, and the packages are smaller. And you are getting fewer carbs, so you can use the water more efficent, and a lot of vitamins.

yes, i do. Well not a pounch, but a trangia messtin filled with stuff. But it's pretty much the same idea. It's primarily mend to give some survival equipment in to my daypack, with minium effort (put the kit in the pack).

Nalgene bottles nest neatly in a Snow Peak Ti 700 Mug. Makes for a nice contingency kit.

Good pouch. I suggest replacing the space/blanket for a heatsheet and adding more duct-tape.

Good ideas. I do want to trim this down. I would like a little larger of a pouch, but the equipment trimmed down leaving room to spare.

My argument with the fold-a-cup is that what if I don't for some dumb reason on my part have the water bottle with me? Therefore I packed the fold-a-cup.

My hands tremor alot from meds, so I use the hemostats for different things: Sewing repairs, fishing, crafts, etc. They are a smaller type that has no bend to them (were meant to be sold to nursing school students) easier to use for me than multitool pliers and fit nicely into the FAK.

I have to have coffee in the morning, but during the midday tea does better quenching my thirst. I will trash the hot chocolate, just have it there for the sugar content it provides.

I might use the handle end of a Coleman can opener for a spoon. Its like a P-52 but has a grip on the end in a spoon shape.

The sponge is squeezed down, dried out and thin as can be, then zipped away.

Thanks ironraven, good thinkin on your part