QUOTE: we are talking about a Zero/Zero engagment. If it goes beyond 30 seconds and 3 rounds, I will be very much surprised.

Leigh,

No arguments my friend. I just don't want people to get the impression there is such a thing as a magic bullet.

Knowing the strengths and limitations of a particulare ammo can help someone make a suitable choice. In my case, with revolvers, had there been no pre-target bullet tumbling I may have chosen these for personal use. A longer barrel may mitigate this tumbling, but I have not followed up on this.

I think they have great merit where limited penetration it crucial (air martial, nulcear facility security, apartment dweller, etc).

I still consider them to be niche ammo, but if your niche fits, use them. I was really just trying to share my own thoughts, analysis, and experiences with this ammo.

There are no magic bullets (especially from a handgun). NO handgun ammo will guarantee a "one shot stop". There are cases of goblins receiving 12 guage blasts to the "vitals" yet still continued causing grief till they bled out.

Which brings me back to my personal priority.... Shot placement. A hit with a .22 will always trump a miss from a .50 caliber. Practice, practice, practice.

Cheers, TR