Don't mean to get way off topic, so I'll just leave it at this, Leigh: Ladysmiths are just decorated J-frame Smiths for aesthetic appeal to go along with their firepower. Belly guns like that are not as easy to control for little ladies also. Magsafes aren't the only thing that won't go thru the target, especially from a snub nose's lower velocity it can vary from load to load. I've used .44 Special loads nearly 20 years ago that wouldn't even crack a concrete block at 10 ft. It was a hollowpoint copper cone with a plastic wad backing it up made for close up defense. It actually put two holes in your target at that range, one from the light slug, another from the plastic. Shot them from a Charter Bulldog 2 1/2 inch barrel.