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#67574 - 06/14/06 03:42 AM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
Jackpine_Savage Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 08/02/05
Posts: 73
Loc: Minnesota
Some people (Cough Cough) have been known to take an old key that doesn't fit a doorknob any more, and sharpen the serated (toothed) side. That key fits on a key ring and is undetectable unless someone actually looks at it close. For what its worth.... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#67575 - 06/14/06 04:06 AM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
Susan Offline
Geezer

Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
If you want real trouble, tell the judge that you are a Fully Informed Juror, and you'll vote as your conscience directs.

Sue

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#67576 - 06/14/06 04:47 AM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
This is the United Kingdom (from my point of view), and being a civilised nation, unlike you poor benighted barbarians beyond the pond, a Juror will do exactly that. The Juror's oath in the U.K. is to render a verdict according to the evdence. The United Kingdom is the only country in the world that permits a defence of breaking the law to prevent something worse happening. Jurys are concerned as much with the "why" as the "what." And a Juror is absolutely independent of the Judge. Which upsets certain partys. We had a case quite recently when a Jury refused to continue a trial because one or more of them felt that the Judge had taken a dislike to the defendant.


Edited by Leigh_Ratcliffe (06/14/06 10:32 AM)
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#67577 - 06/14/06 12:03 PM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
How can flashlights be banned? <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

The world has gone mad.

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#67578 - 06/14/06 12:24 PM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
JIM Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 03/18/06
Posts: 1032
Loc: The Netherlands
Quote:
The world has gone mad.


I believe it started in The Netherlands <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
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#67579 - 06/14/06 12:27 PM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
Craig Offline


Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
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We had a case quite recently when a Jury refused to continue a trial because one or more of them felt that the Judge had taken a dislike to the defendant.


Wow! That wouldn't fly over here. The judge would hold them all in contempt and throw all the jurors behind bars.

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#67580 - 06/14/06 02:00 PM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
ironraven Offline
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Never make the mistake I did once- point out that the human hand is a lot more leathal than that itty bitty little letter opener.
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#67581 - 06/14/06 02:20 PM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
Leigh_Ratcliffe Offline
Veteran

Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1355
Loc: United Kingdom.
That happened back here in the 1700's (I think). The Jury Foreman applied for a writ of habas corpus. Which is held to be proof that a Jury is independent of the Judge. You would have a National Outcry if the Judge tried to jail a jury overhere.
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#67582 - 06/14/06 02:45 PM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
7k7k99 Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
a very true statement, but you got in trouble for saying it?

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#67583 - 06/14/06 03:19 PM Re: Equipped when you CAN'T carry
ironraven Offline
Cranky Geek
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
They felt intimidated. It was a federal building, and they had something going on, so the local guys (who have a clue) were temporarily replaced by these goobs from someplace a bit more urban.

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