Hi Old Bald Guy , it is good you are keeping an open mind. Much of what they say there is misleading and some is just not true, notice that they talk in generalities, could , may and apt to. They have not even tried it themselves or talked to anyone who has used HVDC in an appropriate manner. The points that were mentioned there were not issues at all with the ongoing trials in Ecuador.

Great care must be taken when using HVDC (read very short shocks) on the head and around the heart area. I don't recommend either, (especially from a stungun or car spark lead). That being said, it takes much more voltage than is necessary for this purpose, to cause problems to the heart and head. Is seems that it is a long duration of the shock that causes problems with the heart.

There are many out there who say that it doesn't work or that it is downright dangerous, but they are just parroting off what they have heard from someone else. Many medical "experts" don't do any research themselves but will accept the conclusions of any "official" small animal study without examining the merits or method of those studies. And those same "experts" will ignore 100% sucessful human trials done in another country, because it has not been done in the US. This is at best unscientific.

Just because there are lab tests which have been published does not mean that the conclusion was correct. Just think of the debate that has raged over weather to use a tourniquet or light pressure, or to cut and suck the wound with a snake bite.

For this reason, and the fact that many people will not take the time to read the studies for and against the subject (or are able to understand them), I will be going through them and writing reviews and summaries of the information for the site.

I find the hot water thing very interesting, I know that some people use a special little heater that looks like a lighter to heat the area of bee and wasp stings. It heats up the skin warm enough to deactivate the venom but not enough to burn. It really does work. Bee stings are similar to snake venom, so it is possible that it may help, I have no experience with this. I think that as the venom of a snake goes further in than a bee sting it may not be treated as effectively by heat.

Nighthiker I couldn't agree with you more.


Macgyver.