#66523 - 05/28/06 11:03 PM
Re: Snake Bite, Insect Bites and Stings
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Journeyman
Registered: 05/24/06
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Loc: Victoria Australia
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The most scientific study which was done was in Germany and I have been unable to obtain a copy of their report. Their finding is what I posted above as to the effect on the venom.
Unfortunately I don't see there being any further studies done in the US for some time to come. We are the great land of protecting interests. All I will say is there are several very powerful people who have it in their power to stop any further publishing of this type of study for peer review and have done so. They have also been able to stop funding for further research. There is much politics that goes on in the scientific and medical community, unfortunately. The only other option would be a privately funded study (very expensive). To quote the great scientist Max Planck: "An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: What does happen is that the opponents gradually die out."
Stun guns work very well for this purpose, however they are a little bit of overkill for this task, only 20 kv is needed and stunguns often provide 100 kv. The stungun causes the muscles all around to tense up which is rather an unusual feeling. There is also an involuntary jerk away from the sourse of the shock. Once the shock stops there is really no after effect, it doesn't hurt or cramp. Naturally the shock hurts more in areas of the body where there are more nerves (hands, face etc.) and much less on the arms and legs.
When you get a sting or bite and there is quite a bit of swelling the pain sensors are usually maxed out, and so the shock doesn't hurt quite as much. That being said, the voltage does often effect a larger area than the area of swelling. So you will definately feel the shock.
I can't say how a cattle prod feels, but I assume it is something like a stun gun.
I use a unit that was made by a missionary, who used to live in South Carolina. He made them for missionaries going into remote places of the world. It consists of an ammo box with a small engine flywheel and ignition coil (from a mower or whipper snipper) and a hand crank. It has two leads coming from the coil which carries the shock.
These units are a little cumbersome but they will always work when needed, as opposed to a stungun which has batteries to go dead. Also stun guns are banned over here in Australia, along with everything else. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
My unit feels just like shocking yourself with a lawn mower (pulling the starter cord) Naturally the faster the pulses are together the more intense it is. It is not too bad actually, however the finger tips hurt a little, as anyone knows who has been accidentally shocked by a lawn mower. It is rather easy to hold the electrodes while receiving a moderate shock without feeling too much discomfort. Each pulse is rather like receiving a static electric shock.
A car ignition system is much hotter and will work well but is overkill ( feels like a stungun) I would use it if I had nothing else though.
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