so you're 30 now, right? <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Few weeks, but yeah. Why, you think that's old?

Chris was knapping flints before the cool people were doing it. :P

No, not at all. But that was the nicest thing I wanted to comment on. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

But if I had to give you a reply about the rest in your post:
You would have to know somebody for a long time and in all sorts of situations to know what he can do and knows.
You can't say anything about and judge that from info you have from a forum, and especially not by compairing someone to the 'stereo-type teenager'
In fact, if I where a stereo-type, I wouldn't be interested in survival, medical stuff, fire-departement, and I wouldn't be a member of this forum!

Just a thought.....

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In the great scheme of things: The one thing I am proud of knowing, is the realization I really do not know much at all. Learning is life long and there will always be one thing more to learn then I already think I know <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />.

Pete

Greetings to all!
I belive JIMs basic question is why are our New York style helmets shaped the way they are. The short answer JIM, is that it keeps the water from running down the necks of our turnout coats. You can even purchase some in leather. (these are much more expensive and heavier to wear, but some guys like to spend money) The fire service is rather tradition heavy here in the US and therefor somewhat slow to change. I have been a firefighter for the last 17 years and have recently had a chance to try the helmets that you were displaying under actual structure fire conditions. It is definately lighter to wear, and offers more complete side protection. But that being said I would have a very hard time giving up my New Yorker.
Thought it was time to come out of the woodwork so to speak,I have been lurking about for the last four years or so and have learned much from many of you. Thanks!

Easy, you two... you're starting to make this 42 yr. old feel absolutely ancient <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Troy

Troy, my point was not so much about age, as experince. And the wisdom it brings.

And Jim, I'm not trying to be nasty. It's honest advice. You remind me of me at that age. Or my little brother, who I drove to fire calls when he was a cadet becuase he was too young to drive himself yet. If I thought you were a typical teenager, I'd ignore you.

I KNOW that, IR... that was just a little good natured ribbing <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Troy

Hmm... ribs... sounds good...

If you are feeling ancient at 42, heck at 51, I must be petrified <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />.

Pete