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The problem is that the general idea of camping in the Netherlands is standing on a grass field with big trailers and all the luxury you can think of. So there are not a lot of 'basic' campings where you can stay in a self-made shelter or practice your skills.

My brother in law and family like to "camp" frequently. They pull their big camping trailer behind their truck and have the DVD player, microwave (for s'mores after the fire is out) X-Box, remote control cars to play with...you know...camping.

We went to visit them when they were "camping" once and I thought to myself, "they can stay at home and be lazy slobs, why haul all this stuff a couple of hours away from home to do the same things they do at home?"

Their friend did have a chance to practice his fire making skills though. It didn't involve any tinder, but there was some lighter fluid and an electric fan involved... <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> How embarrasing to be related to people like that!
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