I have said elsewhere, on the forum, that the only thing wrong with the saw on the Leatherman Wave is it's size. I have just purchased a pocket saw with a 6" blade on it. At a botanical garden in Oxford, England. Yes, the tree's are all still there and no I didn't test every tree & plant for it's medicinal & firelighting properties. Unfortunatly. But, the point that I wanted to make is that usable equipment can show up in the oddest places. I'll post a report on the saw when I have time to properly abuse it.