Equipped To Survive Equipped To Survive® Presents
The Survival Forum
Where do you want to go on ETS?

Page 3 of 4 < 1 2 3 4 >
Topic Options
#64271 - 04/19/06 04:48 AM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
Anonymous
Unregistered


The guy in the cart screwed up. He didn't start it but he provoked a reaction. What is the loss of a radio compared to your safety. I would have just driven off, let them have the radio and collected license plates as they left. Or better yet, leave the lot as soon as you see a potential problem.

Even if you had a 12 gauge handy, and felt obligated to vaporize the leader, with that many assailants, you could end up quite dead by your own weapon......

Top
#64272 - 04/19/06 06:37 AM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
ChristinaRodriguez Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 02/24/03
Posts: 324
Loc: Rhode Island
"... if there are so many upstanding young people with morals and conscience, why are they not impacting those with none of those values?"

...Because it is becoming increasingly difficult to do so. After all, consequences for any risky behavior can be easily downplayed or avoided entirely these days, so where is the incentive for us to actually HAVE "morals" or "values" or even restraint? With all the opportunities to do whatever we feel like whenever we want, to do anything "old-fashioned" or "Puritan" like simply delaying or denying gratification is often openly ridiculed, which is incredibly hypocritical considering we're supposed to be so open-minded and accepting of other people.

Even with the non-criminal element, my generation has been raised with a huge sense of entitlement and very little shame. We've become so vehement in claiming our rights to liberty and the pursuit of our own happiness that we've neglected our sense of personal responsibility.

At least, this has been my experience.

And just so you know, if Everett's email address is any indication, he and I are the same age.
_________________________
http://www.christinarodriguez.com

Top
#64273 - 04/19/06 06:48 AM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
massacre Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 12/07/05
Posts: 781
Loc: Central Illinois
Stereotypes largely serve to help us separate ourselves socially. They help give us "place" in an every increasing world of chaos and social migration. Anyway, I'm certainly guilty of it. I think that this refrain (that the younger generation is morally bankrupt) has echoed through history.

I'm 33 and I've tried to lead a good life, I help others when I can and I don't force my views on anyone who doesn't care to hear them (my wife might argue otherwise! <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ).

Quit often, socio-economic upbringing is only a contributor to a larger problem. It's down to parental input or lack thereof. You can argue single parents, working mothers, absentee fathers and any number of other factors. Even then, some kids make it and some don't. As far as I'm concerned, the only impact I'm required to make is to bring up my own children. And part of that is teaching them to help others while defending against those who might not be so moral.

Why do you feel this change should come from the same generation you rebuked? Doesn't that simply change your disgust from those who are immoral to those who aren't? I think you are shifting blame where it doesn't likely belong.
_________________________
Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.

Top
#64274 - 04/19/06 07:33 AM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
7k7k99 Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
you state it pretty well. there is no sense of personal responsibility anymore. it is very discouraging and the whole world is on a downward spiral and I don't see much in the way of 'brakes' to slow it or stop it.

Top
#64275 - 04/19/06 08:30 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
Craig_phx Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 715
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Quote:
you state it pretty well. there is no sense of personal responsibility anymore. it is very discouraging and the whole world is on a downward spiral and I don't see much in the way of 'brakes' to slow it or stop it.


The Boy Scouts of America is here and we are making good men - one boy at a time! <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
_________________________
Thermo-regulate, hydrate and communicate.

Top
#64276 - 04/19/06 08:39 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
7k7k99 Offline
Enthusiast

Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
The Boy Scouts are under attack by the political correctness crowd constantly, will they survive? I wonder?

Top
#64277 - 04/19/06 09:57 PM A local view
Anonymous
Unregistered


The group that attached the maintance person have been doing this type of raid attack for the last couple of weeks. They have the group on tape running in to a convience store grabing anything they can and running out. There has been 6-7 reported attacks and one person has been arrested. He was looking into the camera. This is a group of young boys and girls looking for a thrill acting like punks. Hopefully the cops find them and beat the snot out of them prior to booking. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I have lived in LV for over 25 years. The worst parts of LV are still been then many areas of Chicago, New York, Miami, LA or other big cities.

The Las Vegas strip is a very safe place to visit or walk around. The only place with more cameras is disneyland. The man attacked was working so even if he had a concealed weapons permit he probibly would not have been allowed to carry a gun. Also the group is composed of boys and girls under the age of 18, so maybe talking to them would not seen so outragous as a means to disarm the situation. That being said once they stated puching he did the smart thing and ran. Now the cops are 100% focused on getting the group. They broke the cardnial rule - NO BAD PRESS -

Top
#64278 - 04/20/06 12:29 AM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
picard120 Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 07/10/05
Posts: 763
Can a person carry a collapsible police paton as defense weapon? Is this legal? those dam kids need to be taught a leson. Someone should kick them on the heads. They only learn from violence. When I was a kid, if a gang tries to attack me, I call upon my friends in local neighboorhod. We would hunt down these evil doers. Then we would beat the crap out of them. I remember once I beat broke a bully knee shin with a wooden stick. Then our group hung all of those bullies by their feet up the support steel beam in a warehouse. We let somone else cut them down. They never bother any of us again.

Top
#64279 - 04/20/06 02:16 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
Anonymous
Unregistered


I was told by a cop that the collapsible batons are considered concealed weapons and therefor illegal to carry.

Top
#64280 - 04/26/06 06:13 PM Hate Crime: blacks attacking white!
Craig_phx Offline
Old Hand

Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 715
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
_________________________
Thermo-regulate, hydrate and communicate.

Top
Page 3 of 4 < 1 2 3 4 >



Moderator:  Alan_Romania, Blast, chaosmagnet, cliff 
November
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
Who's Online
1 registered (Phaedrus), 612 Guests and 258 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Aaron_Guinn, israfaceVity, Explorer9, GallenR, Jeebo
5370 Registered Users
Newest Posts
Leather Work Gloves
by M_a_x
11/13/24 09:56 AM
Satellite texting via iPhone, 911 via Pixel
by Ren
11/05/24 03:30 PM
Emergency Toilets for Obese People
by adam2
11/04/24 06:59 PM
For your Halloween enjoyment
by brandtb
10/31/24 01:29 PM
Chronic Wasting Disease, How are people dealing?
by clearwater
10/30/24 05:41 PM
Things I Have Learned About Generators
by roberttheiii
10/29/24 07:32 PM
Gift ideas for a fire station?
by brandtb
10/27/24 12:35 AM
The price of gold
by dougwalkabout
10/20/24 11:51 PM
Newest Images
Tiny knife / wrench
Handmade knives
2"x2" Glass Signal Mirror, Retroreflective Mesh
Trade School Tool Kit
My Pocket Kit
Glossary
Test

WARNING & DISCLAIMER: SELECT AND USE OUTDOORS AND SURVIVAL EQUIPMENT, SUPPLIES AND TECHNIQUES AT YOUR OWN RISK. Information posted on this forum is not reviewed for accuracy and may not be reliable, use at your own risk. Please review the full WARNING & DISCLAIMER about information on this site.