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#64251 - 04/18/06 08:23 PM 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
7k7k99 Offline
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http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2006/Apr-18-Tue-2006/news/6914050.html


video link:
http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4781589


here is a different survival scenario, the man survived but with injuries. So how do you prepare for this type of survival situation? An unprovoked attack. Survival gear won't do you much good here.


Edited by 7k7k99 (04/18/06 08:24 PM)

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#64252 - 04/18/06 08:34 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
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"So how do you prepare for this type of survival situation?"

Be constantly aware of your surroundings and always carry at least 1 spare magazine.

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#64253 - 04/18/06 08:40 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
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Might have been a gang attack (M13?) or a race hate crime.

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#64254 - 04/18/06 08:52 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
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appears to be just a group of kids leaving a movie and suddenly deciding to attack someone and the group mentality took over. A very scary situation. we have a generation raised with no conscience or morals

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#64255 - 04/18/06 08:54 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
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1) NEVER let your guard down in public. EVER.
2) Be aware of your surroundings.
3) Scan for threats.
4) Check your 6.
5) Learn martial arts.

I'm not saying that would have prevented the crime, but I'm guessing it would have helped. I've been sucker punched. I walked away (luckily) because there were 4 others with him. Since then I've earned my black belt and I would still try to get away first, but if I couldn't then the lead guy is going down first. Sometimes it's enough to stop the gang mentality when you drop the instigator of the attack.

Don't know if a gun would have helped here in the least.
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#64256 - 04/18/06 09:10 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
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I agree with these statements:

1) never let your guard down, ever
especially in these days of terrorism and just plain psychos everywhere

2) you have to be aware of your surroundings

3) I doubt since this was a hotel employee, that he would be permitted to have a gun, even with a concealed carry permit -more than likely with this many attackers, they would probably have taken the weapon from him and used it on him

4) it proves that you can't depend on security or the police or anyone else to protect you

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#64257 - 04/18/06 09:22 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
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I agree! Oh, and with that many people, you can be sure that unless he actually started taking down people with a gun, they probably still would have jumped him.

After watching the video (took forever for me to load) I can followup with this:
1) Never leave the vehicle!
2) Get away from a dangerous situation. I'm sure the poor fella wishes he had his jaw and collar bone unbroken. The cost of a 2-way radio is virtually nothing compared to your health, and certainly nothing compared to your life.
3) Don't sass back. Keep moving. This guy may have felt a little "safe" being in a position of some authority. Try telling that to a cop. They approach every pulled over car as if their life depended on being aware and safe. Just watch some of those hair-raising police car videos to see what I mean.

The guy saw them coming, had a chance to leave. Even if he felt safe, as soon as he saw them stealing the radio, he should have left the area while calling for security/backup. He got out of the cart and it's fairly obvious he "had words" with the assailants. From the video, who knows... but it looks like something inflamatory was said. All of them looked like punk wanna-be gang bangers. I'm thinking he's REALLY lucky he didn't get shot over his radio.

Even so, they should round up every one of them and put them to back breaking labor for a few years. Of course, in our prison system, criminals hone their craft in the joint, so that's probably not a great option. LVPD is pretty notorious for not putting up with this sort of thing, and someone will give them up eventually. LV protects its PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER. like no other city I've been to. Without tourism, LV is a hole in the ground. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#64258 - 04/18/06 09:44 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
ironraven Offline
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They happen about once every few centuries. We used to call the Crusaders. Same mentality.
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#64259 - 04/18/06 11:15 PM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las Vegas
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A mace or pepper fog device might have helped. (don't even know if they exist. Do they?) <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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#64260 - 04/19/06 12:10 AM Re: 15 Youths attack and beat up a worker in Las V
jeffchem Offline
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Registered: 04/12/06
Posts: 27
Loc: KY
The report on FOX news says that the gang had been haning aroung all weekend and acting suspiciosly. Sounds like someone should have called the cops earlier.

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