I've never used a surefire before, seem pretty good.
Mag-lites also work just fine.

desertrat1 said:

For what it's worth, Target seems to have a **MUCH** better selection of high-quality flashlights than Wal-mart. Every time I go to Wal-mart and look through their selection of lights the phrase "lotsa junk" comes to mind. At Target, I see a LOT of cool stuff under $30 that I would like to have.

Speaking of headlamps, last week I picked up a couple of River Rocks on clearance at Target for less than $4/each. Here's a review:

River Rock headlamp

I put one in each car - they may come in handy when changing a flat tire.

You'll love the Fenix. It puts out a lot of light for a single AA.

Ooops, sorry. I forgot that you chaps speak American. Ok, in answer to you questions: A gnate is a very small irritating insect. Some what smaller than a mosquito or a midge. A thousand yards is 1000 yards or 3000 feet. In this context it usually means an impossible range. Actually I am surprised that Doug hasn't come up with a torch to that spec yet. Come on Doug, you have a reputation to live up to here.....

Well Target is a French owned company and I wouldn't buy anything from them.

MagLights were great in their day. I'm sure there are many people who still have use for them. But I now find them middle of the road. Too much for around the house. LED's are much better there. But then, not enough for outdoors, unless you need to be significantly mobile. They're a good enough compromise for that - mobility, brightness, cost. For a quick check out the back door to find the reluctant-to-come-in cats at night, my wife now uses this monstrosity she bought at Costco. A "Thor" or something like that. A handheld rechargeable super car headlight basically. Now THAT beast is bright! No problem picking out the reluctant cats from a mile away. You just have to be careful not to ignite them.

I'm still laughing at that one... <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I haven't bought a Mag in a long time, but I have several and still keep the multi-D's in my vehicles. Their claim to fame is their construction and adjustable head. The fact that they are readily available in nearly every retail shop for a decent price makes them attractive still.

I have moved on for now, have a nice 2D light with 10 LEDs and a Xenon tube... I can switch between 5 or 10 LEDs or the single center light which is adjustable in beamwidth. It's a nice compromise and I'm pretty sure I've seen them in smaller AA sizes. But I'm certainly going to give mag a shot when they deliver their LED models.

I'd direct you to this site: http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/target.asp

I've always found Target to be a more upscale Wal*Mart. Strangely enough, a common turn of phrase where I live is "Target is French for K-Mart." I wonder if that has anything to do with the urban legend.

Although they have turned to Chinese goods to compete (like nearly every other store in the world!), I think the company itself is okay. They seem to carry some better quality items and I don't see them in the news about smashing the souls of their workers on a monthly basis.

Anyway, thought you might want to reconsider your position. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Just for info.
Not being up to date with international economy, I would like to know which french company owns (or is the major stockholder of ...) Target ?

TIA