#64062 - 04/18/06 10:43 AM
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Old Hand
Registered: 03/18/06
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Loc: The Netherlands
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I use the sas handbook to, but I can't get pencil flares. Prohibited in Holland
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#64063 - 04/18/06 02:01 PM
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Cranky Geek
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Uh, Jim, PC, no offense, but what ISN"T illegal or unavaiable in Holland sounds like a shorter list. I'm sorry guys. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
In fact, unless you are stoner or way to into tulips, it sounds like everything fun is just not in your country. What do you do there to not go crazy?
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#64064 - 04/18/06 02:21 PM
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Absolutly right, their are so many laws in Holland that you would go crazy. Weapons, pyrotechnics,knifes. You name it, there are laws over and against it. It sometimes is really frustrating, you can get allmost anything in The States. I can only order from the internet. ( No povidine-iodine swabs, antibiotic ointment, pyrothechnics, manchete's, Epirbs, PSP...........
So I have to spent my time on this forum! <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Edited by JIM (04/18/06 04:56 PM)
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#64065 - 04/18/06 02:35 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Actually the dutch law regarding to firearms, knifes and pyrotechnics aren't extreamly strict.
Knifes with a cutting blade shorter than 9cm are allowed, 7cm if the blade is in the middle thinner than 15mm. Locking blades are allowed. You just have to find a good excuse to carry them. Anything can be a weapon and if the police officer see's it as a weapon you will have problem or a ticket...
You'r allowed to shoot firearms at gunclubs, you only need paper that says you'r no criminal. After joining a gunclub for a year, you'r allowed to buy a gun. Your allowed to own up to 7 guns. Many calibers from small to large are allowed, except the .50. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
pyrotechnics have strict storage rules, but the prime reason why they are hard to get is the fact that very little places sells them. Flares that is, you can get smoke pods and stuff more easier.
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#64066 - 04/18/06 02:38 PM
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Registered: 12/07/05
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Loc: Central Illinois
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You can't buy basic FAK supplies? That's crazy. Can't you get some of thst stuff at a chemists? Even if you have to buy a full kit... I would think at least antibiotic ointment is available. You can get that stuff in convenience stores (gas stations) here in the states!
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#64067 - 04/18/06 02:39 PM
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Old Hand
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Loc: The Netherlands
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Dutch weaponlicenses are strict compaired to almost all other countries( exept the UK) Doesn't make much sence, if you are a criminal, why would you want your weapon to be registerd with the police?
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#64068 - 04/18/06 02:45 PM
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I know, it's terrible. I wanted to buy antibiotic ointment, It's on prescription, they said. So I went to the doctor, who didn't want to give me one. To young he said and to much paperwork (all prescriptions has to go to the insurance.) They also don't have samples or single-use pack. And Povodine-Oidine Swabs are just not available in Holland.
(If you can buy it everywhere, send me some!!) <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#64069 - 04/18/06 02:50 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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antibiotic are always on prescription, because in holland antibiotic is only given to those that really need them. There isn't a time is money, so we have to take antibiotic to heal quicker kind of thought here. It has protected use a little from resistant bacteria.
And first aid equipment are availible, just just have to know where to look for. And indeed Povodine-Oidine swabs are not for sale, Povodine-Oidine cream, plasters, gauze, etc are.
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#64070 - 04/18/06 03:01 PM
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Old Hand
Registered: 12/07/05
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Loc: Central Illinois
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Interesting. I for one agree with the policy and tend to stay away from anti-biotics in general. However, because virtually nobody else does that, we now have some serious strains of resistant bacteria now.
Anyway, if I can get away with shipping them to you, I'd be happy to send you a box. I just don't want your customs saying "who's this chap sending a box of antibiotic ointment to a 16 year old boy?" Hehe... I don't need that kinda hassle! But seriously, I could probably pack a small FAK with some extras if you like. If there aren't any rules against buying those items abroad and having them shipped, cool. But if there are, I have to think that one of us sending them is probably not a smart idea.
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#64071 - 04/18/06 03:19 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
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In fact, unless you are stoner or way to into tulips, it sounds like everything fun is just not in your country. OK, just to be fair, if we Americans are going to put JIM on the hot seat for his hillbilly remark, let's at least show a little restraint with our own sweeping generalities and stereotypical comments about the Dutch and their entire country, shall we? I know it was meant as a joke, but still. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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