#6339 - 05/20/02 11:34 PM
AIRPLANE KIT
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Hi,<br>I am traveling on a plane to Arizona soon and I would like to know what they currently allow on a plane from the PSK. Another way of saying it is what would you take. <br>
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#6340 - 05/21/02 02:33 AM
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Carpal Tunnel
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This is a popular question. The consensus is this; first, you will endure considerable scrutiny even if it is packed in cargo and not carried, secondly the actual use for one on a commercial flight, even in a crash is remote. The easiest strategy is to ship it ahead to your destination by a secure carrier.
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#6341 - 05/21/02 12:33 PM
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I understand it would be easier to send it in the mail. However if you’re in a crash you might need your PSK. I guess maybe you could salvage what is around. But if the plane is in flames I know that the smoke and soot is so bad that if suffocate you fast. It will clog up your mouth and throat.<br><br>But still what would you carry on your person.<br>
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#6342 - 05/21/02 01:22 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/08/02
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well i would carrier only some water or water purification equipment, some first air items, singnal devics and maybe some kind of fire starter. because it's most likely that SAR teams will arrive soon. so you only need some short term survival things.
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#6343 - 05/21/02 01:46 PM
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Registered: 05/25/02
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If I were flying commercial and the plane were to crash and I was to survive, my immediate priorities would be successful egression and self treatment for exposure and shock. To this end, I would carry these items: something to cut the seatbelt (discretely sharpened carkey), a bandanna, a bright flashlight (Surefire E2 Elite), a whistle (on my keychain). I would be wearing long pants, button down shirt and would have a light windbreaker or anorak. I would also, more than likely, be wearing polycarbonate sunglasses (my usual daily wear) and a baseball cap. The rest of my kit would be a few altoids kit type items scattered around my person. I would, more than likely, have a few large garbage bags in my carry on luggage along with a few first aid items, duct tape, paracord, and a 1 liter Desani bottled water or the like.
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#6344 - 05/21/02 01:56 PM
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Anonymous
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For travel, I have a separate travel keychain that lives in my carryon bag to take on planes, with all the usual stuff (whistle. Photon, Swisstool, plus a zipper pull compass/thermometer. It has a snap release for a separate ring that carries a Swiss Army "Rucksack" model (which I like) that rides in checked luggage. (Also in checked luggage is a pretty comprehensive travel first aid kit I put together, using a lot of input from Doug Ritter's small kits, and starting with the Adventure Medical "Voyager" kit.) <br> A separate Zip , labelled "Carryon Meds" has the sort of personal items/first aid you might need in an airport or plane: aspirin, Sudafed, Digel, skin lotion, earplugs, bandaids, a blister pad, wipes, lip balm, floss. In a separate pocket are a bandana and cloth handkerchief. You might also consider an eyeshade or inflatable pillow.<br><br>I always travel with a checked luggage utility kit in a HD Ziploc containing a plastic coffee can lid (plate), knife-fork-spoon kit from Magellan's, a couple of extra HD Zips, garbage bags, corkscrew, duct tape, extra bandana and hand wipes. I find it handy for roadside picnics, street food, hotel snacks, etc.<br><br> Hope this helps.<br><br> -- KB
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#6346 - 05/22/02 12:09 AM
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Anonymous
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The airplane ride is still the safest part of your journey. If you're flying over the continental U.S. in a U.S. flag carrier, the odds of not making it to your destination safely are simply not worth considering seriously. Also, if your regularly scheduled airline flight does go down, help will be on the way. You will not be stranded anywhere for any signficant time.<br><br>Chris K. is absolutely correct: you're more likely to need your PSK at your destination, not on your way there.
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#6347 - 05/22/02 01:55 AM
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Anonymous
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>>>> I have a separate travel keychain that lives in my carryon bag to take on planes, with all the usual stuff (whistle. Photon, Swisstool,<br><br>If this is the same Swiss Tool that I think it is, you're going to get some screener all excited one day. These are definitely confiscated if they're found. Once they find one item, expect to have a conversation with a supervisor, plus having everything else gone over with a fine-tooth, non-sharp comb. :-)
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#6348 - 05/22/02 01:09 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 04/08/02
Posts: 1821
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i dont thing you can get a sharp object in a plane to cut seatbelt after 9-11. it most likely to be taken away from you by customs or other security people on the airport
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#6349 - 05/22/02 02:51 PM
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Anonymous
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In the second world war spies were getting sharp coins with them maby you could use that to cut your seatbelt
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#6350 - 05/22/02 04:02 PM
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Anonymous
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Rather than flirt with a federal felony charge of trying to smuggle a knife onto an airplane, which IS what we are talking about, let's think about the problem that we faced.<br>Most planes that crash, crash during take off or after departure and during the approach and while landing. I think that we all agree that MOST airline crashes do not involve a jet simply falling out of the sky. The crash several years ago that scared my daughter out of flying is the exception. Those airplanes make a small smoking hole when they land.<br>Airliners that crash on take off are heavily laden with fuel and break up on impact, spilling Jet A everywhere. Those near the end of their flight are less heavily loaded with fuel, but are required by FAA regs to carry sufficient fuel for an approach, missed approach and flight time to their alternate with an approach.<br>The likelihood of surviving such a crash is low. In military crash investigation training, I was not given information that would make me believe that getting trapped in a seatbelt that would not release was a problem. <br>I guess as a result of that, I would not think that there is a significant advantage in posessing an edged item that woudl justify the risk of arrest in today's climate.<br>When flying with the Army, I replaced the crappy Camillus "survival knife" with a Gerber LMF with a SHARP edge. The ribbing I got from my pilots was rebuffed with my belief that if I needed a knife in an emergency, I would REALLY need it in a big way. I don't think that there is a lot of compromise in that thinking.<br>Just an opinion......and we all have one.
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