#63182 - 04/02/06 09:51 PM
My PSK with Pictures
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I didn't float test my chipping hammer, honest Chief!
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Click on pictures for a larger one --Personal Survival Kit-- stored in an Otterbox 1000 with a 12 ft 550 paracord lanyard (whipped down to 1 ft) -Signaling Fox 40 Resuce Howler whistle 2x3 signal mirror (protected with duct tape) -Fire Starters 12 waterproofed strike anywhere matches w/ strike strip re-light birthday candle spark lite 5 quicktab tinders -First Aid 3 tubes antibiotic ointment 5 wound closure strips 4 antiseptic alcohol pads 2 2x2 gauze pads -Emergency Devices 2 razor blades scalpel blade (#22) hacksaw blade (18 tpi) fishing kit 5 split shot sinkers 1 extra large hook 5 small hooks 5 med hooks 5 snap swivels 25 ft 20 lb test fishing line photon micro light freedom compass (20mm) 23 iodine tablets -Multi Purpose 5 sq ft HD aluminum foil 2 Gerber bags P-38 can opener 26 in duct tape 2 sheets Rite in Rain paper 1 space pen refill - (forgot to put it in the picture) 6 ft steel wire (0.020) commando wire saw 3 twist ties 2 rubber bands 10 ft braided nylon line 1 large needle 1 medium needle 15 ft HD nylon thread safety pins 2 large 2 med 2 small So, what do you think? $0.02 welcome, I may have overlooked something that everyone else can point out. I designed this kit to be a small SHTF backup for a camping/hiking/outdoor emergency. I am usually dressed properly (BDU pants, long underwear, waterproof jacket, solid boots, hat, etc) and I always carry a good knife (DR RSK M1 on the way), lighter, and bandanna in my pockets. When camping I have backpack, food, water in canteens, tent, sleeping bag, flashlight, first aid kit, etc. So again, this is a redundant backup for real emergencies, but I also think that I could get along OK with solely this kit. - Matt (My PSK for while on Coast Guard ships is the next project!)
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#63183 - 04/02/06 11:34 PM
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Cranky Geek
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My one concern... in about a month, take the duct tape off the mirror, see if it leaves anything behidnd. Or did you have something between the mirror and the tape.
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#63184 - 04/02/06 11:55 PM
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I think I would dump some of the fishing items and add either some aspirin/tylenol/advil, immodium and or pepcid AC, possibly a few other meds, add a few bandaids, maybe switch out the iodine tabs for micropur tabs
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#63186 - 04/03/06 12:39 AM
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I didn't float test my chipping hammer, honest Chief!
Registered: 03/22/06
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I had 4 band aids but the kit wouldn't close. I did an analysis and decided that they were the odd man out. I know that food/fishing isn't a huge priority, but I also believe that band-aids are more for superficial wounds. The pads don't even fully encapsulate the wound, the side is left open for dirt to enter. With the antibiotics/antiseptics, wound closure strips, gauze, and duct tape from the kit as well as my pocketed bandanna, I'm fairly confident that I could handle a more severe wound. Though it would probably be a good idea to try and flatten some (maybe 2?) in a dictionary and then cram them in there ...
Hmmm, some pills might be good too, especially something like Immodium (if I do catch a bug). You have to be careful with aspirin - if you have a nasty injury, it can thin your blood and you'll start to bleed out again. Is the purpose of Advil/Tylenol in a survival kit just for pain management?
I read somewhere that MP-1 tablets needed to be kept in the foil packaging. I made a small compromise between quality and quantity. I hear that Potable Aqua is pretty effective and I was able to put 23 in there. Is there a huge difference in quality? Is the foil thing a correct representation of MP-1?
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#63187 - 04/03/06 01:03 AM
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Registered: 12/27/04
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Nice kit. Good idea puting the whistle on the outside. Only thing I would do different it to go with better matches. I use the life boat ones and they have gotten some good reveiws.
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#63189 - 04/03/06 01:30 AM
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I read somewhere that MP-1 tablets needed to be kept in the foil packaging. I made a small compromise between quality and quantity. I hear that Potable Aqua is pretty effective and I was able to put 23 in there. Is there a huge difference in quality? Is the foil thing a correct representation of MP-1? Yes, MP-1 needs to be kept in their foil packaging, but doesn't potable aqua start to go bad as soon as you open the container? (ie transferring them into another container). Someone can probably clarify. The reason people like MP-1 tabs is because they'll kill stuff the others won't. Potable Aqua won't nail viruses or cysts, like cryptosporidium, but MP-1 will. The way I look at it, there's no point in killing 90% of the bad things in the water, then getting sick anyway because of the things you couldn't kill. I use MP-1 as primary water treatment in my PSK, but I also have AquaTabs as backup (they take up less room, but again don't kill as much as the MP-1 will) Anything is better than nothing though <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#63190 - 04/03/06 01:39 AM
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Can lifeboat matches be lit on any old match striker, or is the one on the lid of the vial special?
What does everyone else think, not just for my PSK but in general. In a limited amount of space, which are the best matches to use, keeping in mind that you can carry fewer lifeboat matches but the overall quality is arguably better? Lifeboat matches should be able to utilize any striker designed for matches. They're nice... kind of like the NATO wind/waterproof matches. Burn like little flares. As far as what you use, it's up to you. Personally, if I could only have a handful of matches, I'd rather just go with a mini bic. If it does work, you get potentially hundreds of fires compared to a dozen for matches. If it malfunctions, you have your spark lite. Still, you're right... you have to weigh quality vs. quantity when space is at a premium.
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#63191 - 04/03/06 01:46 AM
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Cranky Geek
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PA goes funny if you open it after about a year, or three years if closed. Now that I'm repacking PA, I replace it every six months. 8 bucks a year is a decent investment.
The reason I use PA still, now that MP is available in my area has to do with the smiple fact that water that's pure doesn't help if you can't get it down. Tried it, and almost hurled.
When in doubt, BOIL. 100C destroys pretty much everything.
However, now that I double checked, I see that you are using a clear/colorless bottle, Coastie. Wrap a label around the bottle, becuase they do break down due to light. Amber bottles are much better if you can get them.
Edited by ironraven (04/03/06 01:49 AM)
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#63194 - 04/03/06 02:03 AM
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With the MP. I hate the smell of chlorine, which is probably the issue here. Psychosomatic or not, it's real enough to screw me up. The suvenier of nearly drowning in a pool when I was very little, probably.
PA I'm fine with. It gives me heartburn for the first few liters, but that's about it. And as small as the vials are, PA+ is worth looking into if you don't like PA's taste. Although, I'd rather have ten Immodium in a second tab.
My question is how did you get that many into the vial? It looks like a 5/8 dram, right? I can only get 18 into one of those.
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#63199 - 04/03/06 04:24 PM
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I carry the REI stormproof matches in my PSK. I have had to use them to start a fire when my bic would not stay lit and the strike anywhere matches would not light properly, (the phosphorus would ignite but the wood would not, it was 18 F at 5am and windy).
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#63200 - 04/03/06 06:38 PM
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I use the lifeboat matches because they are many time more reliable than the strike anywhere’s. What is the point of have twice as many matches if half of them do not work? The use of the lifeboat matches also almost guaranties the matche will get to the tender before being blown out. If I had to choose between a 5 lifeboat matches and 25 strike anywhere’s I would go with the lifeboats. I would like to here why others would choose the strike anywhere's over the Life boats or maybe a combination.
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#63201 - 04/03/06 07:44 PM
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Availability and cost, pure and simple.
I've used lifeboats in the past, and I find that a thrice lacquered strike anywhere is almost as good and easier to find something to light it on. I've also never been fond of the strikers that are needed for the lifeboats. I've heard people say that they can light them on standard strikers, but the manufacturers say otherwise.
If I could find a local source of the Colhgans (sp) water/windproofs, I'd give them a try.
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#63203 - 04/03/06 11:04 PM
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Speaking from personal experiance: If there is any sort of wind no match is going to be satisfactory nor any lighter for that matter. Rule 1 of survival: GET OUT OF THE WEATHER! Even with an accellerant fire lighting is touch and go at the very best of times. Use your poncho or whatever to shield you fire when lighting it. If you have to make a choice of matches carry no more than 4 lifeboat matches (your striker will crap out after 4 or so strikes). Lifeboats where not designed for fire lighting. Their original use was to burn trough the waterproof laquire covering on a distress rockets fuse.A mini clipper will at least allow you to apply a longer lasting flame to your tinder. If you want to proof strike anywhere matches use a large candle and dip the heads into the wax. gives a most satisfactory result.
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#63204 - 04/04/06 03:22 AM
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You are right about the strikeing surface getting lost or damaged. I will take that in to consideration with my kits. Thanks for the reply
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#63205 - 04/04/06 05:17 AM
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One other thing I might suggest regarding MP-1. Lifesystems stock a neutralising tablet that removes the tast & smell from tabbed water. Not sure if it works with MP-1. I'll try it and let you know.
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#63206 - 04/04/06 11:04 AM
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Good kit
Edited by JIM (04/04/06 02:17 PM)
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#63207 - 04/04/06 12:15 PM
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He wrote
"The mirror I used came with the Ritter PSP. I left the protective film on the mirror side and used the duct tape for added protection and to insure that the film did not fall off with abuse."
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#63209 - 04/04/06 01:14 PM
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I've been using an Otter for a battery box for a while, and that is pretty well packed. Should be fine, but I've heard soewm stories about having to pry them open after a flight.
And the tape around the vial should be fine. In addition to the amber glass, I use a label around the vial that has all the directions for using PA. The bottom is open, just so I can tell quickly which vial I'm using- the Immodium in the other vial won't make bad water good. I figure that what little light reaches them during the monthy repack of the PSK should be too bad, becuase the origional bottle had an uncovered bottom.
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#63210 - 04/04/06 01:22 PM
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Portable Aqua markets it under thier name PA+. It nuetralizes the iodine. I think it's just vitamin C, but I'm not sure on that, or if it will work on chlorine.
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#63211 - 04/04/06 02:00 PM
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Yes they are & yes they will. Might be a fallback source of Vitamin C if things take a turn for the worse. In many situations vitamin deficiencies are a major worry, even before you get to scurvy levels of Vit C diff.
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#63213 - 04/04/06 09:43 PM
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04/04/06 at 22.40 BST. I have it from Ray Mears, who might be considered the definative expert in these matters, that the best way to obtain Vit C from pine needles is to put a quantity in a cup or container of some description and pour hot water over them. The resulting infusion is very high in Vit C. Don't ask me what pine needle tea tastes like as it's something I haven't yet tried. There are other Vitamin and mineral deficiencie issues as well. As I understand it your body needs various V&M's in order to operate properly. I don't know exactly how long you have before hitting that particular wall. Comments from the medically inclined members might prove interesting.
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#63214 - 04/04/06 10:58 PM
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Use the very fresh ones, that are just coming out htis time of year. It's... interesting. Or as my lady friend at the time said, "you taste like a car airfreshener". :P
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#63215 - 04/04/06 11:53 PM
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Given this match debate, I thought "Hey, sparklites are pretty reliable, not too affected by water, and don't need anything special" so I added another Tinderquick (total of 6). That should do it. Just remember to dry it out nice and good if it should ever get wet. The extra stuff I added made an already tight fit quite a squeeze, but I was able to get the latch closed with a little bit of effort. Is there any record of those latches failing? Yeah it will hold. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Mine has been packed to the brim with no failures. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> BTW I replyed to your PM.
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#63216 - 04/05/06 07:51 AM
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i find pine needle trea to be pretty good. I actually like it more than the "normal" english blend style tea.
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#63217 - 04/05/06 02:42 PM
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In that case, I might have done it wrong. There was a distinct evergreen undertone in what I made. *YUCK*
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