Excellent thoughts, all. My brother in law is certainly piggish when it comes to any sort of house or camp keeping. As far as setting an example, my family went to local lakes to watch the ducks and geese this weekend, and I was revolted by the amount of garbage in and around the water. I made it a personal rule, which I hope my daughters pick up on, to pick up at least five pieces of garbage when I'm camping, or by a lake or river, or trail. My wife, a bit of a germaphobe, couldn't believe I was doing it, but I figure every little bit helps. We dissect all of the 6 pack container plastics that come into our house, just in case they do end up somewhere other than the landfill. I know I can't save the world by myself, but I certainly don't have to make it worse because of laziness, and maybe I can even make it a little better by cleaning up a bit of others' laziness.