Wow, I really didn't think this thread would go this long. In most cases you could beat saguaro cactus fruit until you have jelly but only when they feel they're ready do they just knock off. It's alot easier to just cut them off, when you need them. The US is a geographically diverse country,

I went to survival school in Washington State (in January/Feb) and it was a tough read for a kid from AZ. One thing I've learned is utility in one area is different from another.My PSK includes vinyl rain gear and a 12' X12' tarp for protection from unexpected weather. Hard <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />ly useful in Washington. I have full Gore-tex hanging in the closet. Don't use them much.