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#61664 - 03/11/06 08:00 AM Fire Bundles
Burncycle Offline
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Has anyone successfully constructed a fire bundle?

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#61665 - 03/11/06 04:36 PM Re: Fire Bundles
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Please define "fire bundle". Are you refering to something portable that will easily light and sustain flame for a period of time? Like a birds nest bundled in fatwood?

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#61666 - 03/11/06 05:55 PM Re: Fire Bundles
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According to the survival manuals I've got laying around, it's a method for transporting live coals. I guess it's not as important if you have firemaking tools, but if you've been building them by by hand it can be time consuming, and if you have to leave your fire (or the weather threatens to put it out), you can take some live coals with you using a fire bundle instead of having to spend an hour building another one when you come to a stopping point.

The diagrams in the manuals show drawings of live coals surrounded by "dry punk wood" which is then surrounded by damp grass, alll put into a container of metal (like a SPAM can) or bark. They don't go into much detail, like how much punk wood you should have, how much damp green grass is needed, how long it's supposed to last, and so forth. It mentions enough air has to get in to keep the coals slowy burning, which (I imagine) might be difficult to judge and might be challenging to maintain, so I was wondering if anyone had attempted one before.

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#61667 - 03/12/06 03:00 AM Re: Fire Bundles
Susan Offline
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If I understood it correctly, the old-timers carried the coals buried in ash. Probably hardwood.

Sue

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#61668 - 03/12/06 01:06 PM Re: Fire Bundles
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I would like to learn more about this subject too. The term "fire bundle" does not google to any associated subjects.... I wonder if there is another name for this early technology?

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#61669 - 03/12/06 01:37 PM Re: Fire Bundles
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Registered: 03/11/06
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Loc: So. California
It's mentioned in Outdoor Survival Skills by Larry Dean Olson. Evidently the Paiute used shredded bark, sagebrush for example, in a two foot long, 4 inch diameter bundle that held the burning coal at one end. Presumably, the bundle would smoulder down like a cigar, taking 6 to 12 hours at which time a fire could be started to transfer the spark to another bundle.

Guess i will have to try this sometime after i master making fire...

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#61670 - 03/12/06 03:56 PM Re: Fire Bundles
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May be you could see this movie to get some info :
The quest for fire

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#61671 - 03/13/06 03:32 PM Re: Fire Bundles
cliff Offline
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No, no, no. I think THIS is what he's after. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

.....CLIFF

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#61672 - 03/13/06 07:46 PM Re: Fire Bundles
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Oh ... that's a fire bundle !?! <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#61673 - 03/13/06 08:10 PM Re: Fire Bundles
indoorsman Offline
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Loc: Ohio
Les Stroud demonstrated a fire bundle on one of his ‘Survivorman’ episodes. Maybe someone will remember which episode that was?

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