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#61458 - 03/07/06 04:26 PM Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Space
MartinFocazio Offline

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#61459 - 03/07/06 05:55 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Space
duckear Offline
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Sounds like a drilling.

The Luftwaffe carried them in WWII. They are wonderful firearms and worth $$$ today.

Luftwaffe Drilling link-cool pictures

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#61460 - 03/08/06 01:28 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
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Ohhhh. Me want.

IMHO, the perfect combination would be:

1) 22LR
2) 30-06
3) Shotgun, #16 or #12, with flares to match.

That should be able to handle just about ANY food-gathering mission that I could imagine.
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#61461 - 03/08/06 02:16 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
duckear Offline
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To me, the perfect drilling would be a pair of 20 gauge barrels and a 7X57R rifle barrel with a quick detachable scope.

I agree, though, that your 4 barrel combo would be great for 99% of the world. For world wide use and pick up the last 1%, a pair of 12 gauge barrels over a .375 H&H Rimmed and a .22LR would take anything on the planet!!!

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#61462 - 03/09/06 01:07 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
ironraven Offline
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Skip the .22 and use an adaptor cartridge to fire 7.62 Tokarev. Cold loads are fine for very little game, about the same power as a .32 ACP, while higher powered loads will probably thump up the the size of very small antelope or coyote.
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#61463 - 03/09/06 10:33 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
Kuzushi Offline
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Found a pic! enjoy.

the Soyuz Sawed-Off
larger pic

Dave


Edited by Kuzushi (03/09/06 11:44 PM)

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#61464 - 03/10/06 12:05 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Space
11BINF Offline
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the russians also carrried in thier space craft survival kit the 9x18 cal. makarov pistol for close protection....by the way, a good book on russian aircrew survival equipment is (MIG PILOT SURVIVAL) russian aircrew survival equipment and instruction...the book is written by MR. ALAN WISE....the book covers all types of survial kits used in russian jet aircraft and space craft....a neat book....vince g. 11b inf...

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#61465 - 03/10/06 02:53 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
norad45 Offline
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They better hope they never have to touch down in the USA. That shotgun appears to have a barrel length of less than 16", and as such is classified as a destructive device. Possession of such a weapon is punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#61466 - 03/10/06 05:34 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
Susan Offline
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"...classified as a destructive device..."

True. There's probably only 5,000 or so in every decent-sized city. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#61467 - 03/10/06 06:33 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
duckear Offline
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That shotgun appears to have a barrel length of less than 16", and as such is classified as a destructive device.

Actually, short barreled shotguns are considered Any Other Weapon (AOW) and subject to a $5.00 tax. A SBR (Short Barrelled Rifle) is subject to a $200 tax.
A SBD( Short Barrelled Drilling)??? A $205 tax?

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#61468 - 03/10/06 11:52 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
Brad Offline
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If the shotgun started out life with a barrel shorter than 16", it's an AOW and a $5 tax. If you take a shotgun and shorten the barrel to less than 16", it's a short barreled shotgun (SBS) and now a $200 tax.

confusing but just depends on when it was shortened, berfore or after the serial number was listed as "manufacturered "

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#61469 - 03/11/06 02:02 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
norad45 Offline
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But what's the penalty if you don't happen to have paid the $200 ATF tax (which I bet the Russians haven't?) I think the cosmonauts then go to the Yankee gulag... <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#61470 - 03/11/06 04:44 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
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Just seeing this topic reminds me of a story I heard from a friend of mine that works for NASA. While the US was spending millions of dollars for a pen that would write in space and over grease and upsidedown and ... (you get the idea), the russians came up with a much cheaper alternative... they used pencils.

What a concept... <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#61471 - 03/11/06 04:51 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
Brad Offline
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Snopes says that's not true

Russian Space Pencil

sorry
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#61472 - 03/11/06 09:32 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
ironraven Offline
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FYI, unless NFA '34 has been ammended in the past two years, it's 18" for a shotgun barrel, 16" for rifle barrels.
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#61473 - 03/12/06 12:17 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
norad45 Offline
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It's me who misquoted the regs. I meant it humorously and, sadly, it isn't. I apologize. I think it's a pretty cool gun. I'd like to have it. And I think that it would be very useful. Too bad we can't have one here in the land of the free without paying through the nose. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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#61474 - 03/12/06 04:31 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
duckear Offline
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Quote:
It's me who misquoted the regs. I meant it humorously and, sadly, it isn't. I apologize


That's okay. Just don't start calling magazines clips and we'll all get along just fine. LOL <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />



Edited by duckear (03/12/06 04:31 AM)

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#61475 - 03/12/06 05:12 AM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Space
picard120 Offline
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what the heck would he do with the gun? Is he afraid of getting rorb by aliens? that will be news broadcast. " Aliens rob astrounaut on space station. Robber took several spacesuite and food, swiss army knife, underwear. " <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#61476 - 03/12/06 12:23 PM Re: Russian Astronauts Carried A Shotgun Into Spac
norad45 Offline
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In the past i've been guilty of that one too! <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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