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#59863 - 02/05/06 04:45 AM RSK in M2
ghostbear Offline
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Where did the link to the M2 knives go? I cannot find it anymore at aeromedix. Are they all sold out? <img src="/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Doug, if you please put the link up one more time--I promise I'll finally buy one... or two.
- Frank

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#59864 - 02/05/06 07:35 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Sales have been suspended temporarily. That's all I can say at this point.
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#59865 - 02/07/06 09:53 PM Re: RSK in M2
TomSwango Offline
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I have 2 of the RSK in M2 on order. With the orders be filled or not.

Also any info on the RSK fixed blade knives

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#59866 - 02/08/06 02:04 AM Re: RSK in M2
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Doug is pretty much incommunicato right now during the Shot Show. Please be patient. If TEOTWAWKI arrives - well darn <img src="/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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#59867 - 02/08/06 04:09 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Come to think of it, the person that I was emailing with regarding my RSK M2 order said to write back around the beginning of February and she would have a better idea of when they would start shipping. It's been a few days and I haven't heard from her...always very prompt before. Hmm...

The M2 will be my first RSK, so it's VERY hard to be patient when one is so excited <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#59868 - 02/08/06 04:30 PM Re: RSK in M2
JohnN Offline
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Well, you'd better order one in S30V to help you wait. You could always send it to me when you get an M2... :-)

-john

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#59869 - 02/08/06 05:38 PM Re: RSK in M2
MissouriExile Offline
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Loc: SW Missouri / SE Wisconsin
DITTO here........ <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> but it will not be TEOTWAWKI if they don't materialize. I suspect I'll survive with a lesser knife.

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#59870 - 02/08/06 05:40 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Gee...thanks <img src="/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
<img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#59871 - 02/09/06 09:02 AM Re: RSK in M2
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Well, you'd better order one in S30V to help you wait.

That's pretty much what I ended up doing. Should have a mini-RSK in yellow by morning.

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#59872 - 02/09/06 01:10 PM Re: RSK in M2
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<img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
you won't regret it .....
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#59873 - 02/13/06 06:44 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Turns out there was less steel than we thought and until we sorted it out, we pulled the order pages. Didn't want anyone to order and then not be able to deliver. Going to be quite a few less than we originally anticipated.

No more than 340 total of the M2 blades, split evenly between the full-sized and the Mini, no more than 170 each.

Anyone who had ordered/reserved prior is fine and anyone who is still interested might want to consider placing their order/reservation sooner rather than later.
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#59874 - 02/13/06 11:57 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Registered: 02/13/06
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Loc: Miami, FL, USA
Glad to hear my order is safe. I really look forward to these knives.

Of course I already love my Mini-RSK Mk1 in S30V. Except for the catcher notch which catches fibrous materials such as netting, it has been perfect! I think the catcher notch is probably a design feature necessitated by the axis lock though, so not much one can do about it. A great knife! <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


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#59875 - 02/14/06 07:01 AM Re: RSK in M2
JohnN Offline
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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I think the catcher notch is probably a design feature necessitated by the axis lock though, so not much one can do about it.


The thumb studs? Actually, they have Axis lock versions with holes. Personally, I prefer the ambi thumbstuds.

-john

Benchmade Griptilian 550


Edited by JohnN (02/14/06 07:02 AM)

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#59876 - 02/14/06 12:54 PM Re: RSK in M2
Donald Offline


Registered: 02/13/06
Posts: 4
Loc: Miami, FL, USA
I was referring to the v shaped area between the cutting edge and the handle. I was not referring in any way to the opening method. I do not know whether I prefer the ambi studs or hole; all I know is that the ambi studs are well done and have served me well. The were especially important when I broke my right arm recently and had to do everything with my left. (I'm right handed.)


On a fixed blade some makers put a small notch behind the cutting edge to make even sharpening easier and keep plunge lines clean. I would far prefer to have a little uneveness there than a notch which all fibrous material or fur seems to instantly gravitate towards. When I was cutting netting it seemed to instantly want to lodge in the v shaped area behind the cutting edge. This was especially evident because the mini has a relatively short cutting area and I was using my less coordinated left hand.

The mini-RSK Mk1 seems practically perfect in every other way! I have carried it virtually every day since I received it. If the notch is the price one pays for having the axis lock, it is a good trade off. The only other model knife I have with the axis lock, the Benchmade 940 Osborne, has the same notch between the cutting edge and the handle. It is not as noticable because of the greater blade length. Hopefully, soon I will have the full size RSK with an M2 blade. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#59877 - 02/14/06 08:42 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Oh man, my dear wife is going to kill me when she finds out that I just ordered the RSK M2 knife!!! I tried not to. I really tried, but I couldn't resist!

Question: Aeromedix used to sell the Bianchi Accumold sheath for the RSK, but it looks like they no longer sell it. I know there were some complaints of fit and such, but I like mine. Does anyone know where I can get one of these? OR can anyone recommend an alternative nylon sheath?

Thanks,

Ken K.

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#59878 - 02/15/06 02:03 AM Re: RSK in M2
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I found a Bianchi Accumold Single Magazine Pouch listed here. It looks like the case used with the RSK anyway.

BUT they list sizes 0, 1, 2, 3, and 4. Does anyone know which one fits the fullsize RSK?

Thanks,

Ken K.

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#59879 - 02/15/06 06:34 AM Re: RSK in M2
frenchy Offline
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... just had a look at my sheath, bought along with Doud's full size RSK : it says "size 2" .


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#59880 - 02/15/06 06:34 AM Re: RSK in M2
frenchy Offline
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... just had a look at my sheath, bought along with Doug's full size RSK : it says "size 2" .


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#59881 - 02/15/06 03:26 PM Re: RSK in M2
KenK Offline
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Alain,

Thanks so much. I don't know why I didn't look on my sheath for a number.

I found this site: http://www.copquest.com/14-1000.htm . It is the "Accumold 7303 Single Mag / Knife Pouch". It had a decent price ($14 plus shipping) but only lists sheath sizes by type of magazine. I found another site that had a conversion chart. The #2 size is the one that fits the Browning Hi-Power. Once the item is placed in the shopping cart it does display a "#2" in the description.

They give a choice of velcro or snap closure. Decisions, decisions, decisions. The sheath Doug offered had a snap closure. I suppose a snap will provide a more durable closure.

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#59882 - 02/15/06 07:58 PM Re: RSK in M2
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I avoid velcro as much as I can, especially for something that will be opened/closed several times a day.
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#59883 - 02/16/06 07:20 PM Re: RSK in M2
KenK Offline
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Last night I talked with a good friend who has been a cop for many many years. He is very familiar with the Bianchi line. He said he ALWAYS tells new cops to get the snaps because they are much more durable and quieter.

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#59884 - 02/17/06 04:32 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Loc: Miami, FL, USA
Thank you all for the information on the Bianchi Accumold? ballistic nylon sheath Does anyone know if there is a size that fits the Mini-RSK Mk1? ....or what the difference is size there is between the different numbers. Perhaps someone could measure their number 2 at least?

Here is another site that sells the sheaths for $13.60, did not check shipping. I imagine the "S" after the number denotes the snap model.
OutdoorSuperStore

I know there are disadvantages to velcro, but since one can hear it, if something pulls the flap open, I might hear it and placement for closing is not as critical.

Stropped my Mini-RSK Mk1 S30V on charged leather, it got very sharp! <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#59885 - 02/18/06 08:49 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Registered: 03/12/04
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ARGH...
I did not even know about these. and now it is two late to reserver the same serial numbers as my other ones... argh...

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#59886 - 02/19/06 06:12 AM Re: RSK in M2
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Quote:
OR can anyone recommend an alternative nylon sheath?


I just got my Charge Ti, and I'm not sure I'm happy with the sheath. So, being the Spec Ops Brand junkie that I am (thanks ironraven!) I looked at some of their sheaths. I may be replacing the Leatherman sheath with the Spec Ops Brand Super Sheath. It has a snap closure, is in the same price range (retail is $14.95 I think) and it can be carried horizontally or vertically.

Point being, when my M2 arrives (will be my first RSK) I may be ordering a second Super Sheath (assuming I like it for the Leatherman). I can't speak as to how the knife will fit, but I've made several Spec Ops purchases lately and been completely satisfied with each one. As a matter of fact, the quality of the products has ruined me for so many other things. My expectations are a lot higher now. My wife and I were browsing strollers tonight and I found myself wishing SOB made strollers, and diaper bags...

Maybe I need to get out more <img src="/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#59887 - 02/19/06 06:35 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Loc: College Station, Texas
This may be a little off topic but I have a Benchmade AFCK and I love it! I have never carried a RSK Mk1 but I am interested to know how the two compare. They are both Benchmade so i'd assume both are good.

Thanks!
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#59888 - 02/20/06 01:23 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Registered: 11/22/05
Posts: 125
Loc: SW Missouri / SE Wisconsin
Just wondering how many of you carry the full sized RSK or full sized Griptillian as EDC? I have a set of the new M2's on order and a regular 440c Griptillian that I EDC. I love how light it is for such a large strong knife. I checked the "state knife laws" website and it could be construed as illegal to carry (blade length) in most states........ even Texas. I'm not expecially worried about that but I am reluctant to carry it in open view.

Also, how many are buying the RSK M2 knives for collectors items and how many plan to use them?

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#59889 - 02/20/06 05:24 PM Re: RSK in M2
JohnN Offline
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Posts: 966
Loc: Seattle, WA
My normal EDC is a small Sebenza, which doesn't seem to alarm most people. This is more or less the same size as the Mini-RSK, although the Mini-RSK is a bit more bulky.

I happen to be really taken with the Axis lock, and I've added a full size RSK to my EDC, *but* I carry it *in* my pocket, unlike the Sebenza which I carry clipped *to* my pocket.

I think that a much larger number of people would be alarmed with the full sized RSK and as such don't carry it in the open, or use it with normally, despite the 3.5" blade is legal carry in my state.

One of the reasons I've taken to EDC this knife is how ambi-friendly and one-handed friendly it is. While I love my Sebenza and can easily open and close it one handed with my "strong" hand, it is very difficult to use with my other hand due to it's design.

As for the M2, I haven't really made up my mind. I ordered one of each size without really having a plan in mind. But I did get them to be users - I'm not really the collector kinda guy.

-john


Edited by JohnN (02/20/06 05:35 PM)

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#59890 - 02/20/06 06:17 PM Re: RSK in M2
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The blade on my AFCK is 3.90 inches long. I don't worry about carring it unless i go into a school or a government building but i don't go into these usually.
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#59891 - 02/20/06 07:46 PM Re: RSK in M2
frenchy Offline
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I recently bought Doug's mini-RSK for EDC, in replacement of the full-size RSK I EDCed before.
The full size RSK got me some comments when I used it during everyday activities.

Up to now, I haven't get these reactions while using the mini-RSK.

Full size RSK usage will be restricted to outdoor's activities.
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#59892 - 02/20/06 08:22 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Loc: SW Missouri / SE Wisconsin
Thanks for everyones feedback. I agree with the looks one gets using the full sized RSK in public. It's a shame because it's my favorite. When my new RSK M2 and Mini RSK M2 arrive I suspect the Mini will be clipped in my pocket and the full sized will ride in my EDI Bag.

'Do what you can, with what you have, where you are'

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#59893 - 02/21/06 01:58 AM Re: RSK in M2
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There is no blade length limit in Illinois. Their knife laws make sense ... use a longer blade while committing a crime and you have committed the crime while carrying a "deadly weapon", otherwise, carry away.

I EDC the mini-RSK, not because of what others might say/think, but because its size is better suited to my EDC needs. Heck, even the mini has gotten a comment or two, but I don't worry about it.

I also have the fullsize RSK, and use it when in the field.

I ordered the fullsize M2 RSK, and plan to use it, not keep it a a clean collectable.

Ken K.

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#59894 - 02/23/06 02:38 PM Re: RSK in M2
MissouriExile Offline
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FYI: AeroMedix says expected ship date for M2 knives is "Mid to late April". My guess is they are playing it safe and (with luck) some should be shipped in early April.
These will be my first RSK's and I'm excited about getting my hands on them.

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With What You Have
Where You Are" WSC

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#59895 - 03/06/06 09:17 AM Re: RSK in M2
ghostbear Offline
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Loc: Burbank, CA. U.S.A.
FYI:
Aeromedix site now says:
"Anticipated Shipment is June."

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#59896 - 03/07/06 09:32 AM Re: RSK in M2
kmcrawford111 Offline
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Registered: 02/21/06
Posts: 52
Loc: NW Indiana
Quote:
There is no blade length limit in Illinois. Their knife laws make sense ... use a longer blade while committing a crime and you have committed the crime while carrying a "deadly weapon", otherwise, carry away.


I thought that Chicago has a 2.5" limit:
http://www.chicityclerk.com/legislation/codes/chapter8_24.html

8-24-020, paragraph 5.

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#59897 - 03/07/06 07:56 PM Re: RSK in M2
KenK Offline
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Believe it or not, Chicago is just part of Illinois, but don't tell that to those that actually live in the city. <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

The Illinois law is as I said. Cities and other municipalities can have their additional laws too, so long as it doesn't violate the state or US consitutions. For example, in Chicago it is illegal to own a handgun without special permits (actually it is legal to own a registered handgun, but they don't allow any new registrations, so...), and it is illegal for a minor (under 18) to purchase spray paint.

From what I can find, the only limitation Chicago has on blade length is ...

"No person 18 years of age or under shall carry or possess any knife, the blade of which is two inches in length or longer."

from http://www.chicityclerk.com/legislation/codes/chapter8_24.html

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#59898 - 03/07/06 08:54 PM Re: RSK in M2
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(With apologies for drifting thread)...no need to comment on the fact that knife laws pretty much everywhere are vague and confusing.

Regarding Chicago, there are armchair attorneys on bladeforums.com that tend to agree with kmcrawford III's belief that 8-24-20, para. 5 does limit to 2.5", to wit:

"No person shall carry concealed on or about his person a pistol, revolver, derringer or other firearm or dagger, dirk, stiletto, bowie knife, commando knife, any blade of which is released by a spring mechanism, including known knives as "switch-blades" or any other type or kind of knife, any blade of which is more than two and one-half inches in length, ordinary razor or other dangerous weapon except that no person 18 years of age or under shall carry concealed on or about his person, any knife, the blade of which is two inches in length or longer."

Key words being "concealed on or about." Does that mean a folder with just the clip showing outside pocket, as in some jurisdictions, removes knife from "concealed" category?"

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#59899 - 03/07/06 10:47 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Registered: 02/21/06
Posts: 52
Loc: NW Indiana
I didn't even catch that the "concealed" part seems to apply to the 2.5" limit, and I read that paragraph several times already! But then again, if a knife is "about" a person, I would think that could mean on the outside... which I don't think could be "concealed"... unless it is in a bag/pouch, but then... vague is right.


Edited by kmcrawford111 (03/07/06 10:48 PM)

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#59900 - 03/08/06 01:11 AM Re: RSK in M2
KenK Offline
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Obviously I missed the 2.5" part two paragraphs down.

Ironically, it appears that so long as it isn't concealed and the person is older than 18 years of age, one could carry any blade length ... but then again such a knife in open display of cutlery would likely garner the quick attention of Chicago's finest.

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#59901 - 03/15/06 04:39 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Equipped.org says the full size M2 RSK is sold out.

Aeromedix.com is still taking orders for them..

Some people are saying theirs have shipped..

Aeromedix is saying they haven't even received them, and won't until June.

Any input, Doug?

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#59902 - 03/16/06 02:20 PM Re: RSK in M2
volbob Offline
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fyi...got my full size RSK in M2 yesterday

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#59903 - 03/16/06 02:53 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Loc: Virginia, US
I want to order an RSK M2 bad, but living from paycheck to paycheck and having no credit cards, I have trouble signing up to order for something and then not having it charged to my debit card immediately. If I knew they were charging and shipping immediately, I'd buy one today. Sounds a little strange, I know, but I've got issues. LOL
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#59904 - 03/16/06 07:16 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Sorry for the confusion. There have been a few communication lapses. Here is the status of the M2 knives:

The first 50 full-sized have shipped from the initial production run. When I found the left over M2 during a Benchmade visit and "claimed" the material for a special M2 version, unfortunately, unbeknown to the factory, some had already been promised for another project.

Benchmade made good on their commitment to us by special ordering enough M2 to satisfy their commitment but it cost significant amount of time, resulting in the now promised June delivery.

As a result of the delay, we had some cancellations (which I predict they will live to regret <g>), so there are a small number of M2 full-sized available once again. Minis are also still available, but going pretty quick.

I think that covers everything. This has been an experience. The good news is they are worth the wait, or at least I think so.
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#59905 - 03/16/06 08:49 PM Re: RSK in M2
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Thank you for keeping us informed Doug. Your commitment to the project is appreciated. Benchmade's too.

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#59906 - 03/29/06 02:05 PM Re: RSK in M2
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The full size RSK got me some comments when I used it during everyday activities.

While doing my graduate student teaching yesterday with a blind student, the paraeducator was starting to open a box of materials for the student, trying to do so with her fingernails. Without thinking, I pulled out my full size M2 and offered it to her. She opened it, used it and figured out how to close the Axis lock, without comment (except for saying "thank you"). What a woman! My wife would have looked at me suspiciously and thought I was going to kill her in her sleep with such a knife! It got me thinking though that I might want to carry the mini when I'm in schools, just in case. Although the mini I have has a yellow handle, so I might have to see if I can still get a mini in M2, or a stainless mini, since the black handle is lower profile <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#59907 - 03/29/06 02:15 PM Re: RSK in M2
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"Paraeducator"? Does everyone have to have a pseudo-title today?

"There is nothing so frightening as ignorance in action."
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#59908 - 03/29/06 03:56 PM Re: RSK in M2
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"Paraeducator"? Does everyone have to have a pseudo-title today?

It's not a pseudo title, like "domestic engineer" or something like that, it's an actual job title. A paraeducator is a specially trained classroom assistant that works with special needs students. There are required classes to take to become a paraeducator; it's not like any schmoe off the street can get a job and just call themselves a paraeducator. Nothing pseudo about it.
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