Tom, I am always amused at what passes for controversy and flame wars in this forum. I think anyone who has surfed the net, especially survival oriented sites knows how ugly it can be. I am certainly not always on target with my replies, red lettering withstanding. My sterno suggestion was a quick fix reply. I have a Coleman two burner, 4 Dutch ovens and the BBQ on the porch. Id extrapolate further, but you and Don made me hungry. I have dough rising, coals turning grey on the patio and my fingers are sticking to the keys as I type!