Fun and amusing answers as always <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The point of my little exercise is to show how PRECONCEIVED training and mindset need a certain fluidity of thought in the real world. Omega's examples are of a specific culture that knows what works. There WIll be established camps with food farther on and to walk on takes less energy and time than replicating one. Military survival often means Survival, Escape and Recovery- SERE or avoiding all the comanches, japanese, vietcong and middle eastern types played by latin american and chinese actors that bedeviled old John Wayne and Chuck Norris. Our russian was trained to evade, and may very well run into my friend Bart the Bear's relatives or freeze doing it. Pilot B may have a Glock .40 after reading our forum but no Wiggybag, and Mythbusters or not there is no fuel on the tundra to make a decent fire anyway. If hes smart, he drained his engine oil and cut up all the insulation Piper installed in that old supercub. There is no set survival scenario, even in known environs with a carefully thought out kit.