This is not to argue with eveyone opinion, but I just noticed that most all other forums ( even survival ones ) are divided, and it seems everyone spends more time in the areas they prefer. Some spend more times with gardening and lifestock, some spend more time with trucks and jeeps ( bug out vehicles) and some just cant have enough of kits and gadgets <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Anywayz, if the elders like it as it is , why not <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for the welcome.