I use 5.11 shirts and pants regularly, I really enjoy the design and the ruggedness, and they don't look to bad either. I use them for my EMS unform. My only problem is that they are 100% cotton, "Cotton Kills" unless you are in the desert. Once wet they are useless as far as insulation and they are heavy. The new 5.11 catalog lists poly/cotton and nylon this year, can't wait for my dealer to get some in so I can compare them to the cotton ones.