#53999 - 11/20/05 03:30 PM
Re: Minimalist bug out - 10 items or less
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Better add some TP to that list, LOTS of TP.
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#54000 - 11/20/05 03:36 PM
Re: Minimalist bug out - 10 items or less
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Registered: 09/04/05
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Loc: Illinois
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Thanks... sounds like a worthwhile project. From what you describe, I'd immagine that's got to give you another 20-25 degrees on the low end of the comfort range. I also liked the idea of errecting a lean-to around the Hennessy. It's basic, but I never thought past the three minute set-up. Thanks again.
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#54001 - 11/20/05 05:01 PM
Re: Minimalist bug out - 10 items or less
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Registered: 02/09/01
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Recall my past posts suggsting a sunday paper under the seat for insulation, fuel and even splint and bandage material. Sometimes what I read does inspire your potential field expediant use <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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#54002 - 11/20/05 05:12 PM
Re: Minimalist bug out - 10 items or less
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Registered: 12/12/04
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Loc: Nottingham, UK
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I wouldn't bug out without a reason, and the reason would inform my priorities. For example, England is a wet country so I'd normally expect to be able to find water unless there was a reason to think I couldn't. My "normal day wear" includes a lot of basic survival stuff, so I'd mostly be wanting extra gear that was too heavy or bulky for every day carry.
1 Tent. Shelter is my highest priority. We are getting subzero temperatures now. I have a small but expensive tent that weighs under 6lb. 2. Tin mug. I can improvise fire with my EDC, but I need something to cook in. 3. Sleeping bag. 4. Cooking kit. I have several; for this I'd take the one in the trianga mess tin, ideally stocked appropriately. 5. Bottled water. Several half-litre ones by choice, but a single 2l bottle if needed for it to count as a single item. 6. Food. Probably noodles, and some packaged fish-salad things I like. 7. Thermarest. 8. "Baily's" survival kit. I have a kit in the presentation tin from a miniture liquor bottle - a bit too big for everyday carry. It contains a mini-RSK knife and other goodies. 9. Garmin GPSMap 60. 10. Surefire U2 torch.
Those are all things I have handy in the house. The GPS might be higher priority if I knew where I was going to and was likely to be moving out of my local area.
Edited by Brangdon (11/20/05 05:20 PM)
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#54003 - 11/20/05 05:27 PM
Re: Minimalist bug out - 10 items or less
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Registered: 12/12/04
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Loc: Nottingham, UK
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> Frankly, I am with the "I'd rather have it and hope to God I never need it as opposed to needing it > and not having it" crowd.
Yes, but that applies to just about everything, It doesn't explain why weaponry is such a high priority. I guess some people fear each other more than they fear the elements.
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#54004 - 11/20/05 06:23 PM
Re: Minimalist bug out - 10 items or less
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Registered: 03/02/03
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Loc: NJ, USA
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With a firearm (and ammunition) you have the ability to procure food, skins, and bone, start a fire, protect yourself against both man and beast, and if necessary take something from another man or beast. If you have optics on that firearm you have a monocular and a firestarting lens taken care of. A metal magazine could be turned into a blade, some magazine springs could be used like bailing wire, a sling could be turned into cord/rope, ect.
All in all, a firearm is a multi-use tool that if you need it and don't have there is really nothing you could make that would replace it. Even the basics of a knife and fire are easier to create in the wild then something as effective as a firearm. Also, If the survival situation in question, that requires bugging out, is something that effects a lot of people it is best to have some sort of protection as those that are less prepared often turn on those who are.
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#54005 - 11/20/05 07:04 PM
Re: Minimalist bug out - 10 items or less
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 02/09/01
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In the end whatever these lists generate inspires people to assemble their own kits. If a firearm proves needed or becomes dead wieght is to be seen and experienced by the bearer. You may find yourself in the humorous ( though semi fictional) situation of Farley Mowat in Never Cry Wolf with multiple Hudson Bay axes in the tundra and no TP. Being prepared for a specific survival scenario is like outfitting our own military. We are always preparing for the last war and usually fall short with the reallities of the next.Sometimes I want a firearm. Usually I need a wiggy bag for me and Teddy to curl up in.
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