Trusbox,beachdoc-thanks for the insights. My greatest fear getting injured are well meaning people that push their skills and supplies. The "surgical kits" pushed by vendors with battlefield surgery manuals a prime example. I was bitten on two occasions by Pacific Diamondback Rattlesnakes ( both in the ankle or lower leg.) Both were "dry" bites ( no envenomation) and I merely had the wound cleaned and a tetanous shot. My greatest fear was the maniacs with Cutter snake bite kits trying to put a tourniquet on, slash Xs with these ancient razors and suck the wound. That and the idiots trying to kill the poor snakes to I.D. them while I sat in the jeep. It wasn't their fault I was focused on dentalium shell beads and not what was beyond my nose ;O)