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#52941 - 11/01/05 07:16 PM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER.
Duke Offline
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Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 53
Loc: Harlan KY
Not only is it the best, it is the most comprehensive. That was well thought through, and I believe it would stand up. The "Beware of Dog" signs protect no one, but this one is so specific and verbose I think it would take a judge or jury just hell-bent on mayhem to not respect it.

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#52942 - 11/01/05 08:55 PM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER.
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Registered: 04/21/05
Posts: 484
Loc: Anthem, AZ USA
Final paragraph before signature line, from the Registration & Release and Agreement NRP climbers are required to sign:

I WANT NRP AND EVERYONE CONNECTED WITH NRP TO HAVE EVERY PROTECTION FROM LIABILITY THE LAW WILL ALLOW, AND THEN SOME. I WON’T SUE THEM AND I DON’T WANT ANYONE ELSE SUING THEM. NO MATTER WHAT. I REALLY, REALLY MEAN THIS. REALLY.
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#52943 - 11/02/05 12:16 AM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER.
Susan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
They shouldn't just have them sign it, they should have them WRITE it all out.

In court, their attorney would probably ask them "When you signed this, did you understand what you were signing?"

And the idiot with the high heels, 3 kids and unruly dog that fell off the cliff would respond, "No, I didn't understand it. They just told me to sign it."

Shakespeare was right.

Sue

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#52944 - 11/09/05 01:04 AM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER.
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Somewhat related is this safety advisory. It is for a *toy*:

http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagen...date=2000-11-03

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#125495 - 02/27/08 10:47 PM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER. [Re: MartinFocazio]
Blitz Offline
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Registered: 08/23/07
Posts: 535
Loc: MA
I thought I would resurrect this thread because this is great. Hope you don't mind Martin.

Thanks,

Blitz

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#128893 - 04/01/08 12:06 AM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER. [Re: Blitz]
Be_Prepared Offline
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Registered: 12/07/04
Posts: 530
Loc: Massachusetts
This was always one of my favorite "disclaimers"... Not as verbose as the one cited earlier, but, I think it still gets their point across.

First the version you hope to see:





Of course, if it looks like THIS, you're already probably in trouble: crazy




There are a bunch of these on all the trails that lead into the alpine zone in the NH Presidential Range. Fun!
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#128894 - 04/01/08 12:19 AM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER. [Re: MartinFocazio]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
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Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
Ya gotta love it!!!
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#128928 - 04/01/08 04:01 AM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER. [Re: OldBaldGuy]
BillLiptak Offline
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Registered: 12/19/07
Posts: 259
BRILLIANT!!!

-Bill Liptak

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#128930 - 04/01/08 04:37 AM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER. [Re: BillLiptak]
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
I remember looking at those signs at the bottom of Mt Washington, and grinning, and KNOWING they meant it

I have pictures of my parents and I up there in June, in heavy winter jackets (yes we brought them along knowing...)

My wife and I went up there on our Honeymoon - late July (had to be the 19th or 20th) - it was in the low 40s, and of course - windy
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#128939 - 04/01/08 10:19 AM Re: The Best Disclaimer. EVER. [Re: KG2V]
CJK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 601
Loc: FL, USA
Many years ago, a few friends and I had planned on going to MT Washington to do some ice climbing.....we were friends with some people who did it regularly and agreed to take a very small group of us novices. They knew us and our abilities and thought we were ready......I don't remember what year it was but that year there was a bad storm (isn't there always a 'bad storm' on that mountain?!?)....this one had already claimed the lives of several people....well the weather seemed as if it would get better so we called to check it with the local mountain rescue group.....they gave us the 'real' report...

"It is so bad here that we are telling the expert climbers.....you want to go up...fine. We are NOT COMING for you! That is how bad it is."

Needless to say....trip canceled. (We're crazy....not stupid.)

Unfortunate too....none of us ever had the chance again....not complaining though....we are all alive to HAVE another chance.....I'll take THAT.

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