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#52544 - 10/24/05 07:35 PM Waiting in Orlando
AyersTG Offline
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Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
Groo,

Been down in your neck of the woods since Sat AM. Waiting to go south - probably tomorrow AM. Two ECRVs here, but neither is Nomad's - think he went South Saturday or Sunday (or earlier); haven't found him yet.

Cannot tell if this response is overkill or not - too soon.

Regards,

Tom

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#52545 - 10/24/05 08:48 PM Re: Waiting in Orlando
groo Offline
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Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 740
Loc: Florida
Enjoy the weather. It won't last long. :-)

I was surprised. I know the worst of it missed us, but I didn't even lose power. On the east side of town, all the traffic signals I went through are working, albeit with a lamp out here or there.

Hope your trip was for nothing, if you know what I mean.


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#52546 - 10/25/05 12:54 AM Re: Waiting in Orlando
RayW Offline
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Registered: 12/06/01
Posts: 601
Loc: Orlando, FL
Hey Tom,

It looks like you will have nice weather for your stay. This is the first hurricane that i have ever seen that blew in with cool weather. Sure beats the heat after the storms last year.

Groo, i made sure that my generator was fueled and ready to go over the weekend, that is why we didn't lose power here <img src="/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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#52547 - 10/25/05 01:03 AM Re: Waiting in Orlando
ironraven Offline
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Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Very low casualties, damage was less than it could have been. And there is the chance you could meet a fellow ETSer in the flesh.

I'd say there are reasons to not consider it wasted.
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#52548 - 10/25/05 10:53 PM Re: Waiting in Orlando
groo Offline
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Registered: 11/02/03
Posts: 740
Loc: Florida
Ah. So that was it. :-)

As hurricanes go, this was pretty much a non event. It was almost a Disneyesque "mini hurricane"... just enough to give tourists a taste, not so much to do any damage. Even cooled off right after. Perfect. <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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#52549 - 10/25/05 11:31 PM Re: Waiting in Orlando
ki4buc Offline
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 710
Loc: Augusta, GA
Yeah, even here on the "Space Coast" it wasn't to bad. We had 87,500 people without power at like 7pm Monday night. Only 10,000 without power at 7am Tuesday.

After hurricanes, Florida is an ant hill, and the Power Companies are the worker ants. They are EVERYWHERE and usually come in groups of 2. In really bad situations, there can be 50 or more in one spot. If you have an emergency, go to a power worker. They have communications, and even if they don't have radios, there are so many per square mile they could pass a message miles by word of mouth alone.

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#52550 - 10/28/05 12:36 AM Re: Waiting in Orlando
CJK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 601
Loc: FL, USA
Let me tell you that down in Fort Myers....we took a hit. Not the worst case but it hit preety hard. No 'Disney' Hurricane here. We fared well on our street....one street north...no electricity even now. The Lee schools will be closed until at least Monday October 31 st.

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#52551 - 11/12/05 03:03 PM Re: Waiting in Orlando
AyersTG Offline
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Registered: 12/10/01
Posts: 1272
Loc: Upper Mississippi River Valley...
This was nothing like the scale and size of Katrina, not even close. Katrina damage is almost unimaginable on a personal level. But I'll chime in here with an eyewitness report from 3 weeks of being there in Wilma affected areas (I intended to be there 2 weeks, but... there was a need). I can only report on what I and my teams actually saw and will not repeat what I heard thru the grapevine. (The grapevine was not working well anyway - or perhaps we were too busy to notice it).

There were indeed quite a few people affected in the INTERIOR of Florida. I was running K-5 in LaBelle (Hendry County) under the constant mentorship of a really great guy - couldn't have asked for a better opportunity to learn how to run a disaster kitchen. We fed folks in Hendry, Glades, Collier, and (briefly) Lee County (Ft. Myers specifically). The last 3 days, I was asked to go to K-15 in Belle Glade (Palm Beach County) and solve a few internal issues there.

Shelter populations are going UP, not down, in the rural counties. Whole subdivisions and camps of "factory built homes" are trashed to the point of being condemed as the local authorities get in to do more detailed damage assessment. FEMA has transitioned to Disaster Recovery in Hendry County that I know of but probably is still in assessment in rural Palm Beach County due to the amount of damage. Red Cross is going to be running shelter operations for quite some time and is running Client Services in strategic locations around the rural interior areas. In that general part of the state, AFAIK the only Red Cross disaster kitchen still operating this morning is in a place (I decline to stipulate exact location) that has a socio-political chronic need rather than a disaster need, which is very much a waste of Red Cross resources, especially when it is $300 million in debt and dropping millions per day in continued Katrina/Rita/Wilma help. I guess some local politians there must be up for re-election - there was/is some serious pressure being applied to keep feeding in a couple of places, and the pressure did not appear to originate from DC or Tallhassee.

Many of the migrant camps through some of that area have been severely impacted for quite some time ahead due to crop damage. Many poor folks and lower middle class folks have taken physical and economic hits that will endure long after the last truckload of debris is carted off. The wealthy coastal cities can easily handle what damage occured. Poor folks in the affected parts of the rural interior will not recover so easily.

And there are some very serious long-term problems scattered in large pockets of that area (a specific immigrant group) that pre-existed and are exacerbated by the damage.

Yeah, as hurricanes go, it was not that impressive on TV. If anyone has the opportunity, go out and see what happened in rural areas, talk to some affected folks there, and you'll perhaps get a different perspective. Not to mention that FEMA, Red Cross, SBC, and all the other NGOs are physically, finanacially, and emotionally wiped out, the equipment is trashed from excessive use without time for repairs, maintenance, and PM, and there is only so much of it to go around anyway. Wilma on top of Katrina was/is pretty rough, but according to my wife and the boys, it has not been newsworthy - not spectacular enough, I guess.

BTW, I out-processed thru the Ft. Meyers (actually, Lee County) chapter, taking my last 4 folks out at the same time with me, and I was extremely pleased with the nice treatment we got from the local and imported volunteers. I drove my last few folks from Belle Glade to Ft. Meyers specifically to spare them the ugliness of outprocessing thru Miami or West Palm beach - I'm still sorry I sent some folks to those places when their time was up <shudder>. The stress reaches 'way up the chain there...

As I wrote yesterday, I will go again on a Disaster Response. It's not for cowboys, though - this takes great teamwork horizonatally and vertically to work well and it demands the very best leadership available at all levels. I'll be very interested to hear what Ron saw when he gets back.

Regards to everyone,

Tired Tom

PS - There are some stories floating out there you may hear of - like the "lady" whose expensive "vacation" house was spared on the outskirts of Naples but didn't have power back on yet. She screamed and cursed at the ERV crew who was trying to feed some hot meals because they had no groceriers to give her (hot meals only) and her friends had just flown in from Ft. Lauterdale in their personal airplane for dinner and she had nothing to fix for supper for them... I got that first-hand from the crew that she cursed at. Draw your own conclusions.


Edited by AyersTG (11/12/05 03:16 PM)

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