I agree that Coleman products are a good value for the buck, and that older products are better than the newer stuff. I have a single mantle lantern that my dad bought in the '30s and is still going strong. The only thing I have ever had go wrong with a Coleman lantern or stove is the generator pooping out. That is to be expected, generators are cheap and a spare should always be with you...I have purchased numerous "broken" Coleman products at yard sales, stuck in a new gen and presto, works fine...