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#51483 - 10/11/05 09:34 AM Re: When do you help and when do you hunker down?
benjammin Offline
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As Rod Serling discovered, this is the stuff from which good drama develops.

I like to think that prudence would dictate that one should prepare for such an event. That being the case, if you are going to go to the trouble of being prepared, you should also make the effort to properly secure your assets. In desperate times, people who are not prepared will do whatever they can think of to secure for themselves the means to survive. If you have assets that are relatively unprotected and easy to access, then you should expect to be challenged for possession, and confronted until you are overcome. My philosophy is to first not advertise that I am well stocked and prepared for a calamity. Of equal importance is that should anyone discover that I have something of value, their efforts to acquire it would not be worth it. If the risk involved in taking something is greater than doing without, then there is no motivation for confrontation. The motivation will be to seek their needs elsewhere.

This is not to say I am averse to sharing things, or otherwise without charity. The point here is that sharing ought to be up to me, and be a voluntary thing, and not subject to duress or challenge. I can choose to share with those whom I share a general interest in, such as like minded neighbors, thus synergizing our survival efforts, or I can choose to mitigate some poor wretch's misfortune, thus providing some measure of good will, but it must always be by my own choice. Anything less is unacceptable, and indicates I have not met my obligations or responsibilities to those for whom I am accountable.

Gee, that sure sounds "survivalist" to me. I guess to me forced charity really is an oxymoron. Kinda like the government spending all my tax dollars to bail out other folks who failed to adequately prepare for a predictable outcome.

To that, I offer this link to a story about Davey Crockett. See what he had to say about our present situation:

http://www.adjutant.com/other/crockett.htm
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#51484 - 10/13/05 04:34 PM Re: Neighbors & sharing tools
Kuovonne Offline
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Registered: 10/05/05
Posts: 71
Loc: Spring, TX
When our neighbors talked about evacuating for Rita, I made a point of asking who they would leave keys with, and whether we could raid their stuff if things got really bad.

One of our neighbors who was out of town before word of the storm came made a special international long distance call to us to let us know where his gear was so that we could use it if it came to it.

We have good neighbors.

We also try to be good neighbors. Sometimes I get tired with how prepared DH tries to be. But then I remind myself that while he thinks that he is preparing for just our family, he is really preparing so that we will have stuff to share, so I limit my complaining.

Thinking about sharing with neighbors is really a good idea. Of course if TSHTF you might want to hord stuff, but most emergencies are short enough that people who are normally kind and thoughtful will remain so. If your budget or other circumstances precludes you from having some equipment that you'd like to have, working together with neighbors is a very viable option.

We don't have a generator, and I won't let DH spend the money on a generator. One of the reasons is because several of our neighbors have generators. OTOH, I let DH store extra gas so that the neighbor won't have qualms about sharing ;-)

-Kuovonne

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#51485 - 10/13/05 05:18 PM Re: When do you help and when do you hunker down?
philip Offline
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Registered: 09/19/05
Posts: 639
Loc: San Francisco Bay Area
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To that, I offer this link to a story about Davey Crockett. See what he had to say about our present situation:

http://www.adjutant.com/other/crockett.htm


Well, here's an interesting quote from Mr. Bunce, who objected to federal largesse to the needy:
Quote:
... Colonel, we are not rich people in this section, but we have plenty of provisions to contribute for a barbecue, and some to spare for those who have none.


That last phrase is the one that I think is relevant to the issues raised in the initial post asking about pooling resources for the neighbors. If the inestimable Mr. Bunce favors it, how can we object, given Col. Crockett's opinion of him?

Phil

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