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#51112 - 10/05/05 09:10 PM Re: Freeze Dried Food
harrkev Offline
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Although the dehydrated foods require water and fuel to use, they are worthwhile for short-term emergencies. Especially, bug-out type scenarios where weight is a major consideration.

Dehydrated food requires water. So, if bugging out, you need a supply of clean water or you don't eat. If you cary your water with you, then you might as well carry regular food.

It seems to me that the only way in which this might be of benefit is if you can readily find clean water, or water that can be made clean, at your destination. Otherwise, toss it.
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#51113 - 10/06/05 07:12 AM Re: Freeze Dried Food
benjammin Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
To clarify:

Dehydrated foods require water only to reconsitute into something more pallatable. I've eaten a dehydrated meal without reconsituting it. Top Ramen is also dehydrated food. Your body will supply the moisture needed for digestion, and even if you reconstitute dehydrated food, your body will still use a significant amount of water to digest it. If you don't have a supply of water to reconstitute a dehydrated meal, then don't eat, you don't have enough water to eat anything anyways.

Freeze-dried and dehydrated food can be stored in your vehicle, regardless how hot it gets. We got to 140 this summer here (which translates to much warmer in the car)and my freeze dried/dehydrated supplies did just fine. Canned foods may get too hot to store in such an environment, because the moisture inside the can generates exessive internal pressure and will burst the seal when heated.

Most of the freeze dried/dehydrated meals I've prepared lately require 2 to 2 1/2 cups of boiling water to rehydrate. Some freeze dried food doesn't require hot water to rehydrate properly.

As a refresher, freeze dried food is fresh food that is taken to sub zero temperature and then exposed to a vacuum, which sublimates the frozen water in the food into vapor and draws it out, thus preserving the general texture of the food. Freeze dried food thus has a very low residual moisture content. Dehydrated food is fresh food that is typically dried by exposing it to airflow at ambient or slightly warmer conditions(below the temperature that would cook the food). Conventionally dehydrated food may have as much as 30% residual moisture, which means it may be susceptible to spoilage. Generally, freeze dried food is better than conventonally dehydrated food because the freshness is maintained better (I've had freeze dried peaches that I rehydrated that were just about like eating a fresh peach). Processing methods for both have improved over time, and although freeze drying is a relatively expensive process, conventional dehydration can be nearly cost free, except for a certain amount of time and effort expenditure, if done at home. I have more than a few home made recipes using dehydrated ingredients that are pretty darned tasty. BTW, dried beans are a dehydrated food, so is rice and noodles. Most home dehydration is for meats (jerky), vegetables, and fruits.

Some dehydration methods use salt in lieu of airflow. Norwegians still use salt aboard their boats to preserve fish rather than ice.
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#51114 - 10/10/05 11:05 AM Re: Freeze Dried Food
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Registered: 12/12/04
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Loc: Nottingham, UK
> Dehydrated food requires water. So, if bugging out, you need a supply of clean water or you don't eat.
> If you cary your water with you, then you might as well carry regular food.

I don't agree with that conclusion. It's better to carry dry food plus water than to carry wet food and less water (for the same weight), because it is more versatile.

You have more clean water that you can use in first aid or whatever. If found water is common, there's no problem with adding it to your food. If found water is scarce you can just not eat, because you can last for weeks without food but only days without water (and it takes more water to digest the food). Water is heavy and when bugging out you will have a lot of other stuff to carry, so it's good to avoid committing water to the food until you know whether you can find more.
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