Hi, I know this is not directly related to survival but it is related to everyday carry. I used to always carry my keys in my right pocket but I see many people attach it to their belt loop with a carabiner or a "dogclip" or hook clip, snap hook (I don't know the correct nomenclature). I recently made a copy of my important keys that I keep in my wallet but I also attach a Photon II and a mini Fox40 to my keychain as it is recommended here. So I was just wondering if you attach your keys to your belt loop and what you think is the most secure way to do it.

Thanks
Frankie

I used to use this method but after many worn out belt loops and having a couple break I switched to metal clip (stainless) that resmbles a money clip with a spring clip that slips onto a belt.

i use a steel carabinder thingy from a hardware store. Aluminium and plastic carabinders have eventually failed on me. It nice to know that something is holding you keys secure wenn your not standing. On some pants you will get the problem that the keys won't fit in to you pockets anymore, because they are to far away, but not with the once's i wear. The brass loop on the 5.11 pants is great for this purpose.

I clip them to a belt loop with a carabiner. I have only done that within the past 6 months - I ran out of room in my pockets...

Similar to this

http://www.copquest.com/19-2240.htm

i use a maxpedition key keeper....
[img]http://www.maxpedition.com/product/product_keyper.htm[/img]
it works great and is very secure

+1 on the Maxpedition Keyper. I use it every day at work for my work keys. As for home and about, I minimize my keys and prefer they go in the pocket.

I use an old biner my brother was going to retire becuase of some corrosion. MIght not hold him, and I'm not even remotely stupid enough to try to climb with it, but it holds my keys just fine.

To save wear on my jeans, I used to put a loop of gutted paracord around my belt. But I never noticed it made a difference with good jeans. With slacks I might to that, but I don't wear those very often.

I used to clip my keys etc. to my belt loop, but have stopped doing that.

1. Afraid of loosing my keys, one of the guys I worked with several years ago lose his.

It was not a pretty sight, we were on service trucks, he did not have any spare keys for his service truck, his personal vehicle which was back at the shop or his house and other stuff.

His only salvation was that I was alson on the same service call in a different truck. We finally got his truck picked up several hours later and I drove him home. Boss wasn't happy with him, his wife ditto and he swore off belt loop clips for keys.

2. It is also extremely EASY for someone to remove the keys from your belt loop without your even realizing it. I did not believe just how easy until I watched someone take keys AND a wallet from someone while talking to him (face to face) with another person. (The person doing it was honest and only doing it to make a point, there were several others "standing around" that had been clued in before hand) and were interested in seeing if it was really "that easy to do".

Everything was returned to the "victim" immediately...but only AFTER the victim was asked to open his car (he was much chagrined to find his keys missing).

The follow-up question came as another shock to him when we asked him how much he thought it would cost to replace his keys and he unconciously reached for his wallet which was missing.

The lesson was concluded and we all parted as frineds still.

These two events made me think deeply and I subsequently made several changes in the way I carry stuff.

Regards,
Comanche7

I don't. My keyring is quite large now, and I figure it's unlikely to drop out of my pocket without me noticing it. It's all threaded on a full-sized climbing carabiner, which I fondly hope would be useful for breaking glass if I ever need to, and there's 2 yards of parachord braided into a 10cm fob.