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#50464 - 09/26/05 10:08 PM What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Howdy, Blast here. (long time lunker, hardly ever poster).

Some background: I live on the north side of Houston, about 72 miles from the coast in a neighborhood where my house is four blocks from I-45 and three blocks from the Hardy Toll Road. We planned on evacuating to Austin Thursday morning but the roads were already blocked Wednesday night. We ended up hunkering down, luckily we only received 50 mph winds and a little rain from Rita. I slept through the worst of her! Anyway, this is what Iearned:

1. Stocking up on water, food, and batteries at the beginning (June 1st) of hurricane season saved me a lot of hassle. I did buy some more duct tape, tarps (in case of roof damage), and fresh cleaning supplies including bleach. It was interesting to watch others shopping.

2. If 2.5 million people are evacuating a hurricane, it's best if I stay home.

3. If you are evacuating, bring spare gas! Cars were dead along I-45 as early as Wednesday night. Some neighbors and I brought water to the stranded people, but most had plenty. What they wanted was gas.

4. They also wanted directions to Red Cross shelters. Next time(!) I'll print up maps showing all the churches and schools used as shelters this time. These can then be passed out to stranded evacuees.

5. Buy plywood for the windows! I always meant too, then it was too late. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

6. It's better to have several 7-gallon water jugs with spigots rather than filling dozens of other containers.

7. Don't give out ALL your spare gas to stranded motorists, because you assumed you could siphon gas from your 2005 Honda Pilot or your 1997 Toyota RAV4 (both with full tanks) to fuel you duel-fuel camping stove.

8. Neigbors love it if you check on them to see how they are doing.

9. Patio furniture can be tossed into a pool if there isn't room in a garage.

10. 22 caliber nail-guns damage bricks.

11. One should always have a crowbar.

12. Give the one flashlight that uses C-batteries to your child to play with. Keep all the flashlights that us AA out of her hands.

13. Never trust the weatherman. If you are EVER in a hurricane's "Cone of Uncertainty" get ready. People in Beaumont thought they'd be safe and ended up having less than ten hours to prepare!

14. Double check the yard for stuff. Then check one last time. You'll be suprised by what missles are lurking under your bushes.

15. We have NO IDEA how our preps would have worked if the full force of the storm had hit us.

16. If the power goes out it will go out for days. We didn't lose power but six homes across the street from us did when a transformer blew. They are still without power and may be until Friday. They are the only homes to lose power in a neighborhood of 400 houses, so getting them on-line is low priority to the power company.

16. Afterwards, don't water your plants with water containing bleach. <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

17. Your mind slips into slow gear. There were times when I when felt so overwhelmed by all I needed to do yet that my mind would just shut down and I couldn't even tie a decent trucker's hitch. Checklists were vital.

18. It takes a LONG TIME to prep a house for a hurricane.

19. I-45 was at a standstill Wednesday evening and remained gridlocked until Thursday after midnight. Friday morning it was clear except for dozens of abandoned cars.

20. The abandoned cars had been broken into by Friday afternoon.

21. There may not be gas at the stations right along the main roads, but you can find it if you go off a ways. Maps of "off the main path" gas stations would have been useful. Yahoo maps is nice for this if you are planniing an evacuation route.

22. When 2.5 million people are evacuating even the back roads get clogged. One neighbor showed me his "secret" way to Austin on a Texas road map. They were in the car for 15 hours before turning around and heading home. If you can see it on a map so can someone else.

23. People drive like idiots during an evacuation. On the shoulder, in the wrong lane, not caring about the safety of others. Be VERY careful if you step outside the car to pee.

21. Most people are really nice.

22. There was some concern about hordes of evacuees storming our neighborhood but the Houston ayor sent buses out early Friday morning to rescue anyone stranded along the main roads.

23. Houston's mayor (Bill White) knows what to do in an emergency, unlike the mayors of some other cities.

24. cell phones in our neighborhood became useless wednesday night due to all the people on I-45 overloading the nearby towers.

25. Text-messaging on the cell phones could usually get through.

On Thursday afternoon we held a block meeting to organize a "heavy-lifting" work party, found out who had first aid training, who had a chainsaw, and prayed. We also had everyone with FSR radios bring them along. The radios were passed out one to each family and set them all to channel 6. If someone needed help they could call the other neighbors. I'm lucky because we live in a great neighborhood where everyone knows and watches over everyone else.

Finally, a funny story. Thursday afternoon my neighbor came running over in a panic, desperate for cake mix! His son was turning 9 on Friday and there were no stores open to buy a birthday cake. Luckily my wife is a great cook, so while I was finishing up preps she baked a birthday cake/frosting from scratch.
Well, it seemed funny at the time.

Hopefully there was a useful nugget of information in this post. I've been lurking on this forum since just after 9-11, but I rarely have anything worth saying compared to the quality of so many others here. I figured I was actually in this event, so maybe experience will count for something.

I'll try to answer any questions y'all might have about this situation.
-Blast
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#50465 - 09/26/05 10:19 PM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Great post! One of the best I've seen here on lessons learned from weather disasters.

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17. Your mind slips into slow gear. There were times when I when felt so overwhelmed by all I needed to do yet that my mind would just shut down and I couldn't even tie a decent trucker's hitch. Checklists were vital.

The importance of this point cannot be overstated. You don't realize how overwhelming a potential disaster can be until you're in deep...
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#50466 - 09/26/05 10:54 PM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Wonderful post. You must expand upon the bit about 22 cal nail guns and bricks.

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#50467 - 09/26/05 11:23 PM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
Excellent post, Blast. Thank goodness your neighborhood wasn't hit head-on. And congratulations for being prepared way ahead of time.

Learned some things, too. Never would have thought of tossing patio furniture into the pool. Hey, if your BOB is waterproof, you could sink it in the pool, too, and it would be safe. Well, until your neighbor's car gets rolled over by the hurricane force winds right into your pool--and on top of your BOB. Or a power line falls right into the pool. Or...never mind... <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

It's great that you have good relations with your neighbors. Really, when push comes to shove, who else can you really rely on, right?

Gosh, it's awful that everyone's abandoned car got broken into. If nothing else, if the cars' owners had their registration in there, a burglar would pretty much be guaranteed of finding an unoccupied house.

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#50468 - 09/27/05 12:29 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 01/05/04
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Loc: USA
I'd like to add a story to this.

My nineteen year old grandson evacuated from the Orange, TX area (East of Houston for those not familiar). Their destination was to be Dallas.

Twenty hours later he contacted other family to say that they still had about another 10 hours of travel at the pace they were going.

Just to give you an idea of how fast the traffic was moving; he got out of the car and walked for about 45 minutes...then caught up with the car he was traveling in and got back into it.

They were still traveling when the storm came onshore.

I'm wondering if the "live & learn" factor will take over and a lot of people who spent the hurricane in their cars will decide not to be as cautious for the next storm?
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#50469 - 09/27/05 12:45 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Great post. From someone who's been involved in a direct hit (Fran), and without power for almost a week, here's a few more beforehand & aftermath tips....

- Freeze jugs of water. Have coolers ready.
- Take a good look at all refrigerated goods, and plan to eat the stuff that will spoil first.
- Chainsaw blades are like gold.
- Grills CAN make decent coffee if you have a percolator.
- Have some earplugs handy to drown out the neighbors generator at night after night.
- Take note of nearby nursing home/assisted living centers, and the services located nearby - they got power back first.
- Cash is king.


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#50470 - 09/27/05 12:56 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
Hi,

Do you think you can get away with the Supreme Products Pocket Chainsaw for storm situations? I just bought one and haven't tried it yet. But it's not very expensive so I figured it was better than nothing.

Frankie

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#50471 - 09/27/05 01:38 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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I suppose it would be great to have, and could work, but many homes had 4 or 5 100' pine trees on the house or blocking driveways. Gas saw is much more efficient in those situations. Of course knowing how to safely use the gas chainsaw is most important.


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#50472 - 09/27/05 02:23 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 02/27/05
Posts: 232
Loc: Wild Wonderful WV
9. Patio furniture can be tossed into a pool if there isn't room in a garage.

Had not thought of that one since I never had a pool and a hurricane at the same time.
I have seen it done the other way by filling your boat with water to keep it from getting blown away. Makes a nice kiddy pool just take it off the trailer and fill it up.
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#50473 - 09/27/05 02:28 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
A few other things:
26. When placing everything in your garage make sure your bicycles and wagon are accesible, otherwise you'll have to redo the whole thing.

27. We had plenty of food, water, batteries, duct tape, tarps, and diapers, but I forgot to buy more kitty litter.

28. Make sure your back-up power source works! Several years ago I had picked up a deep-cycle battery, a automated charger, and a 400-watt power inverter. This system was capable of running a small tv and several fans for many hours. I just left the charger attached to the battery for the last four(!)years. When I pulled it out Thursday to make sure it worked I discovered that the battery had gone bad and it was too late to get a new one. D'oh!

-Blast
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#50474 - 09/27/05 02:43 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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One of our neighbors has a nailgun powered by 22 cal blanks. It is capable of firing a nail with a 1" washer through plywood, fastening it to the brick wall with no drilling. It was incredibly fast and he went house-to-house with it helping people put up plywood.

The problem was you had to be extremely careful with nail-placement. You had to get shoot the nail into the center of the mortar between the bricks. If you hit the brick with the nail you would end up just spalling the brick, knocking out a large chunk (1.5" by 0.5") of it rather than penetrating and holding the plywood.

Two problems occured when trying to remove the plywood. The first was that it was just about impossible to get a hammerclaw or prybar under the nail head. I had to bust up my wood to get enough space around the nailhead to pry it out. The second problem was that the nail was held so tightly to the mortar that I ended up pulling out chunks of mortar with the nail. I do wonder if this was partially because it was so hot out (100 F) while I was doing this. The nails were much cooler when he put them in and they may have expanded with the heat of the day, locking them in place.

YMMV.

-Blast
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#50475 - 09/27/05 03:23 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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The second problem was that the nail was held so tightly to the mortar that I ended up pulling out chunks of mortar with the nail. I do wonder if this was partially because it was so hot out (100 F) while I was doing this.


I doubt it. While a fast (and secure) mechanism to fasten the wood, I suspect anything fastened in this manner is going to be 1) difficult to remove and 2) damage any cement/mortar upon removal.

-john


Edited by JohnN (09/27/05 03:24 AM)

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#50476 - 09/27/05 06:21 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Thank you for the reply. A long time ago I had a case in which Remington stud guns were being use to attatch metal strapping to the botton of the subfloor of the floor above to hang a suspended celing in the renovation of Wilford Hall Medical Center at Randaolf AFB.

A tempered steel nail spalled on the concrete, ricocheted, and went into his heart. He didn't make it.

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#50477 - 09/27/05 03:40 PM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 04/09/02
Posts: 1920
Loc: Frederick, Maryland
While hopefully there will not be a next time, you may want to consider Duplex nails for use where you will be removing the plywood.
Duplex Nails


Pete

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#50478 - 09/27/05 04:50 PM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 04/07/03
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Loc: Long Island, NY
Or screws.

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#50479 - 09/27/05 05:59 PM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 11/13/01
Posts: 1784
Loc: Collegeville, PA, USA
Bravo! Excellent post. Makes me wish I lived in a community more like yours.

We live in a townhouse development where with a high come-and-go factor. People are moving in and out all the time.

It's a bedroom community. Everyone leaves in the morning for work and comes home at night.

Also, the housing association takes care of the landscaping, so you don't really see anyone outside on weekends.

-- Craig

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#50480 - 09/28/05 06:10 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Loc: Anchorage AK
You know, something I plan on doing when I get home is throwing a big "Back from Irak" party and invite my neighborhood over. I will show slides and tell tales, and we will eventually discuss how our little community can help each other and come together. The propensity for catastrophic action is not that great, but great enough that it should be planned for at least minimally. Plus it is a great way for folks to start socializing. I really don't know any of my neighbors back home that well, and that is a shame. These could be people I might turn to in an emergency, but I won't know if I can rely on them or not until I get to know them at least a little.

Of course, when I move out into the Thules some day, I won't have much of a community to deal with. I guess I better plan on being better prepared on my own.
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#50481 - 09/28/05 03:48 PM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 09/15/05
Posts: 2485
Loc: California
Quote:
3. If you are evacuating, bring spare gas!


Perhaps a corollary would be, "If you plan on returning home after an evacuation, bring gas! (Or stash gas at home!)"

I haven't noticed anyone mention this observation on the forum yet, so I'll mention this article I found. Apparently, there is only a single gas station open in Orange County, Texas, out towards Port Arthur. Must be a lot of Orange County residents anxious about being able to keep their vehicles and generators running.

I'm surprised that the price is only $2.51/gal. Are there any price controls in place now there?

Blast, hope the gas situation is better in your neck of the woods.

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#50482 - 09/29/05 01:18 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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For masonary walls use Tapcons.

http://www.itwbuildex.com/tapcon.htm

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#50483 - 10/01/05 02:46 AM Re: What I learned from Hurricane Rita
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 710
Loc: Augusta, GA
SMS text message is definately faster. The reaon is that it is sent on the control channel that all cell phones use to connect to the tower. The capacity is much larger, and your phone can "automatically" retry a few times, similar to ethernet. Plus, people can email you back. Make sure though that they know you are limited to something like 120 characters.

Also, designate an out of state contact. With the design of telephone systems, the local trunk lines (between local exhanges) can be overloaded. Also, the cellular phone network uses the POT to go between towers, thus, they go between local exhanges.

The long distance trunks will probably be underused, or in most situations (i.e. 9/11 in New York) normally inbound trunk lines will be restricted to outbound calls, because of call volume.

If could be wrong about this, if so, I need correcting! Please, post any site that has good information


Edited by ki4buc (10/01/05 02:47 AM)

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