I am going with USMC Ka-bar for $47.99 at my local outdoor shop. Thank you for all info and ideas. A wire saw is a good thing I always have one. But its a good idea to have a back up I have broke two. As for self defense I use base ball size rocks. I have done this on a mountain loin. It works well.<br><br>wwwaaaaaasssssssssuuuuuuppppppp