Some folks will get pretty riled over their preferences on the internal frame vs. external frame debate. In fact, I’m pleasantly surprised that the topic is so tame on the forum so far. Perhaps we’re all flamed out. &#61514;<br><br>Anyway, I have an internal frame pack from www.sportsmansguide.com. I bought their house brand Guide Gear pack. It’s not listed on the web site right now so I don’t know if it will be available again. But it’s a huge pack and I think I paid $70 for it. I though that was a good price, not too expensive if I ended up not liking it. They have Eurika’s and Kelty’s and other packs as well. Mostly last year’s models and colors.<br><br>The Kelty web site has some tips on fitting internal frame packs, which is key to comfort. The actual length of the staves compared to your torso length, and then bending the staves to contour with the curvature of your back. If you buy from a store, they should be able to help you out on both accounts. If you can’t find the info, let me know via a private message and I can email you a 2-3 PDF files on the subject.<br>