It's serendipitous irony we talked of opening a longterm survival forum, the server failed and then this disaster. Being prepared is not unlike the military always preparing to fight the last war. There is always a suprise in the real world. More fingers are pointing at those responsibe, from Bush down to a toiletpaper looter than are being used to pick up a case of water or open a wallet. I think it was Rhett Butler who told Scarlett there is money to be made both in tearing down and rebuilding a society. The news just reported coffee,sugar and chocolate will see price increases since New Orleans is-was the major pipeline for their importation. I'm investing heavily in these futures, not like pork bellies, but cans in the closet and chocolate in the freezer.I can walk or ride my horse if gas continues it's escalation. But take away my coffee and chocolate and we are talking revolution that will make a Bolshevik pale. We've come a long way from PSK kits. I hope everyone will help maintain the community outlook as we sort out a lot of new information and update our thinking. The number of visitors to the site has been overwhelming. It will be interesting <img src="/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />