I am a self proclaimed lever action expert and junkie. I have Winchesters and Marlins. I have 30-30, 45-70, 38 and 44 calibers. I have had just about every weapon I can think of from 50 Cal BMG to 22LR and in between. All of the people that I know around here who are into hunting and military have all these high tech rifles and I can outshoot them easily with my lever action. Maybe that is why I am a cowboy or perhaps I shoot one because I am a cowboy. They are fast on the trigger, have easier target acquisition and are small enough yet have enough power to hunt anything. I heard a rumor that some units in Texas carry them in the patrol leaders car in 45-70 to penetrate front windshields. Does anyone know this for real? I want to get a 35 rem caliber next and see how that shoots.