You sure have! I registered 11/13/01, and that was my second registration, after the forum's unfortunate crash-and-burn. I actually was a registered member before 9/11.

-- Craig

Count me in. I also would enjoy seeing some discussions on these types of "long term living". Techniques, not so much causes. I am more interested in how to store 55 gallons of kerosene for a long period than I am discussing the merits of moving our cash economy off the gold standard. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Things like scrounging a cheap way to stay warm in winter when the power is out, or non-existant... Food storage, lighting, keeping my kids and grandkids safe, collecting water when the public system is down (for whatever reason)...

Like I said, technique, not cause.

Why did I suddenly start humming "I will survive" from THE BIRDCAGE <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> keep it nice people . Offenders may wake up to #10 cans of lima beans poured onto driveways.

I would also be interested by this kind of forum, within those limits.
Right now, living almost in Paris, my options are somewhat limited, as are the expriments I could conduct. But leaving Paris for my own house in the countryside is more and more my project.

I think there's still a lot of room for discussion without any reference to politics of any kind. Or for that matter WHAT causes a need for a certain degree of self reliance for an extended (say, longer than a couple weeks) period. I'm interested here more in the hows (how can we muddle through this) than the whys (why did this happen - it's ALL[fill in the blank's] FAULT!!).

I think if everyone remains civil, and this does seem like a very very civil board - it should be fine.

Seems there is some interest from members. I for one, have no interest in the subject. We have almost all been spoiled too long to be re-educated to any truly functional level of long term survival. So, no participation here. No offense intended to anyone. Cheers!

Just in driveways? *looks innocent, hiding lockpicks behind back* Not in beds? Would be worse than a horse's head to wake up to.

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Yes, declaring it a NO-BLAIM zone would be critical, particularly with moderately brutal administration.

For me, it isn't TEOWAKI-senarios I'm concerned about, but economic disruption. My grandparents told me a lot of stories about depression, and I just about found myself skewered in the "let's not use the D-word" economic downtrend a few years ago.

I'm an old guy, I gave boat building lessons to Noah <img src="/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I'd definitely be interested.

Troy