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Been a lurker for awhile..As far as LST goes I think a moderate amount of discussion re. politics is nessasary to explore different senarios that would require LST and how to prepare for them. Everyone here at this forum seems to be able to be rational about exploring politics and religion as they pertain to ideas that are presented. In light of Katrina I think that a place to exchange rational non-fringe ideas regarding LTS is nessasary, as observed too many other fourms kinda go off the deep end one way or another.

Especially check that your firewall is not "blocking referers"

Andy

I read a lot more here than I post. Until recently I hadn't experienced any thing that could be considered "survival" but then I was staying with friends in Birmingham (UK) when the Tornado hit taking half the house down. People there are still suffering and life won't be back to "normal" for a long while yet. As natural disasters increase over here people will have to support them selves for extended periods as the authorities over here are just not prepared for such. A section with advice and information on longer term survival would be very interesting.

Dumb question, I suppose. Are basements common over there? Was there anyplace to take shelter?

One thing I hate about living in Florida... basements are rare. I miss having a relatively safe place to hide.

Very few houses over here have a basement (cellar over here). Some of the older ones do but they are in the region of at least 50 years old. I grabed my friends and their kids and "hid" under the stairs so we had one brick wall behind us and the stairs to stop any thing that fell from above. It worked thankfully. The roof and the upstairs level were ripped off but no one was hurt inside.

Katrina shows us that we may have to fend for ourselves for a longer period than we thought. Two weeks is the time that they said was right for sheltering in fallout shelters. I think that would be a reasonable period to call short term survival. I don't want to hear about storing wheat & grinding flour!

I am interested in discussing sheltering in place. I think discussing what would be required to shelter in place for about three weeks would be very useful. There are a plethora of problems that would have to be dealt with. I just finished the book “Alas Babylon.” It is about nuclear war with the Soviet Union and how the people in a small Florida town survive.

Any good?

If you liked "Alas Babylon," you might also like "Lucifer's Hammer." Comet strikes Earth, and the aftermath.