It doesn't shock me at all, sad really. <img src="/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I see it all the time on camping trips. My Father-in-law has his secert weapon a 50/50 mix of gas and diesel works every time. But makes me wonder if he can make a fire with out the excellerant.

Also my eagle scout friend to this day can not build a fire. He trys to light a 4" dia. log with a lighter and it never works. Wonder why.

Lasty the really sad part is I always show people the way to do it. Start by making piles of wood from big to small, make a tinder ball, arrange the wood in the fire ring etc. etc.......

Adam