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#46616 - 08/16/05 05:45 AM Repacking QuikClot
Molf Offline
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Registered: 11/25/03
Posts: 72
Loc: Germany
Hi,

as so often bevor I´m struggling with the size of some of my gear:
I would like to make a pack of QuikClot part of my 24/7 kit which consists actually of a small fix blade, two capsuals (like the ones TADGear sold in former times) with the commonly know stuff inside them, a silk scarf in size of a shemagh and a spaceblanket.
The blanket ist folded into the scarf and both together are vacuumsealed and stored in a tailored inside-the-waistband-pocket of my trousers. The both capsuals are clamped to the sheath of the knife which can be clipped on my belt or be worn around the neck. In interrest of carrying comfort I don´t want to store the QuikClot the same as the scarf and the blanket (not enough space between the waistband and my belly after a meal).

Does anyone have an idea about repacking the QuikClot into (for example) a capsual?

As anyways it´s a question of size, weight and durability for me ...

Thanks
Molf

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#46617 - 08/16/05 12:30 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
Polak187 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 1403
Loc: Brooklyn, New York
Is quikclot vacum sealed?


Edited by Polak187 (08/16/05 12:31 PM)
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#46618 - 08/16/05 02:23 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
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This is entirely surmise on my part, but I think that the stuff is so very moisture sensitive that you risk losing all efficacy if you try. But really, are the packs all that bulky? How much do you really gain? There sure isn't much air in them.

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#46619 - 08/16/05 02:34 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
Molf Offline
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Registered: 11/25/03
Posts: 72
Loc: Germany
I´m not really sure if it´s vacuumized or filled with a little bit of a "passiv gas" but the two packs I actually own doesn´t feel like there´s much else inside than the granulat

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#46620 - 08/16/05 02:39 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
Molf Offline
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Registered: 11/25/03
Posts: 72
Loc: Germany
I´m affraid you´re right about the moisture but an other facet is that I´m worried about damaging the packet foil. I would like to give them a higher durability.

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#46621 - 08/16/05 03:17 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
7k7k99 Offline
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Registered: 06/01/05
Posts: 375
Loc: Ohio
I believe it is vacuum sealed, at any rate, you would lose the sterility of the product if you open it. In my opinion.

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#46622 - 08/16/05 06:06 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
Polak187 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 1403
Loc: Brooklyn, New York
Well if it is vacum sealed and outside it says sterile content than any opening of it to dispense smaller amounts into different bags would make the product unusable. If the content is not sterile and not vacum sealed I would say go for it with few bags of silica gel to keep the moisture away.

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#46623 - 08/17/05 08:54 AM Re: Repacking QuikClot
Molf Offline
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Registered: 11/25/03
Posts: 72
Loc: Germany
OK, if you´re discourage me from repacking it (I don´t have an autoclav at present, only to a clean room Class <100) do you see any other small gear to stop massive bleedings that can´t be stopped by pressure only? Hemostats seem not fit from my point of view.

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#46624 - 08/17/05 12:53 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
Polak187 Offline
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Registered: 05/23/02
Posts: 1403
Loc: Brooklyn, New York
How about elevation of extermity and finding a pressure point above the site of injury?
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#46625 - 08/17/05 01:34 PM Re: Repacking QuikClot
Molf Offline
journeyman

Registered: 11/25/03
Posts: 72
Loc: Germany
OK Polak, you´re right as always ... I think I´ll drop the idea about repacking QuikClot.

So an other thought at this point:
Where should I apply pressure when the slashed artery (for example at the groin) is at the heart nearest pressure-point reachable ? In such a case I would try at least to close the artery in order not to drain at all - even if I would risk to lose a limb.

thanks
Molf

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