Well one thing that ETS prouds itself in is that we kind of keep on topic. No bad language, no flame wars about donkeys and elephants and for 99.999% of the time we are being civilized. This is especially important since Doug web site is children friendly. It's hard to control the chat room. You can modify the post but you cant modify instant message. Also sometimes when you sleep over an idea and cool down a follow up post comes up much nicer than the original thought. Groo's idea to create something outside ETS for us to chat is an excellent one. This way Doug doesnt have to worry about somebody flying off the handle and saying stupid stuff that may be rated R. I personally list my Instant Messanger screen name as a form of contact and got asked some questions that way many times.