O.K. I will explain one last time and type r-e-a-l-l-y slow for those who also frequent another rather xenophobic and parochial survival site. I've periodically posted variations on this issue when the ETS culture started getting frayed at the cuffs. I am no longer going to, and the link to forum courtesys should be enough. We have earned an audience worldwide across demographics few websites on this subject have matched. My email is filled with LINK requests and inquiries from people I hope live where they claim to. I had a skinhead in Idaho wanting to sell Hobnailed boots and The Turner Diaries here last week. I declined and he asked "Are you some jew lover?" I replied Doug and I were both jews. The kid got even more upset." No, Your irish, I've read your posts. " I explained my greatgrandmother's background and the concept of matrinlinear descent in Judaism. "No, you are not. Yes, I am. No your not" and it turned into a Monty Python skit until I surrendered. "O.K. I'm not really a jew. So what are you ? I'm a baptised Anglican." I think he did a websearch on Anglican and came back even more upset. "Thats the Church of England! What are you really? Well, I spent 6 months in a Soto Zen monastery and member in a ceremonial clan of a Arizona tribe I attended kindergarden and first grade at, being I'm part indian and it was the only available school. " He called me a "PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER. from Kalifornia and I better not never come to God's land in Idaho or the Elk Hunters would get me good and 'berry' me like the wolfes we got released there." That was one of the more fun exchanges. I simply don't have time, what with reading 76+ posts on constitutional debates on random subway searches as it is.