I own one- I mentioned the pistols to point out the lack of accuracy inflicted by the take down system. <br><br>In a pack, I'd probably carry one of the pistols, as it is slightly more compact than a broken down AR-7. But for an item that would be seperate from a pack, such as in a car or plane, the AR-7 would towards the top of my list. But with the accuracy limits firmly in mind at all time. <br><br>Those limits are also the mechanical maximum. Pistols are harder shoot than rifles, it's that simple. A Ruger or Browning with a long barrel is practically as accurate as an AR-7 is, just because a stocked platform is more stable. Just like (illegally) mounting a 10" barrel and stock on a TC Condender will be as accurate, or more so, than mounting that Contender with a 16" (or even 21") barrel and a pistol grip. <br><br>As to thier lack of reliablity as mentioned by others, I'm almost ready to state that some are just naughty and will never be reliable, while others shoot right. Not very logical or mechanical, but they seem that quirky.