Has there been Posts / Discussion here about Eric Rudolph, -as regards his Survival Experiences and Aspects?

I find myself to be well interested in such. (Just read an interesting, in depth, article on such recently in USA Today).

Briefly and Basically, -I remember the case from pretty much from it's beginning. His bombings and such were of course Improper and Wrong, He made some stupid initial mistakes and boo boos, -despite otherwise good planning. And as a result, -they were hot on his trail, -all the way to his abandoning of his truck in the North Carolina mountains, -and perhaps somewhat beyond.They were Hounding and Hunting him pretty good, for awhile!

Further, being personally of a Pro Life view myself, -I got an uncomfortable feeling that this figured into the "Hot Houndance", as well. Though I Disapprove of his killing and all, -to any such end. If indeed he even was genuinely so motivated.

In any event, -he was able to soon get off, into his well familiar North Carolina mountains. And did a pretty dang good job Surviving and Evading therein! For a good long time. (5 and a half years).

Though having previously Camped and Hiked in these mountains, -and perhaps knowing a lot of, if not everything, -about Standard and Classic Wilderness Survival, I think he's earned a pretty High Grade and Score there! All Told, -I think he places so! -Survivalwise speaking, once again.

Not the least being his Great Improvisations, -to make up for a lot of what he lacked, or was Rusty on.

While Disapproving of the Wrongs he actually did, -Please Don't mistakenly find an "Admiration" in me for him there!,-I nevertheless find myself considerably Liking and Admiring this guy, -along with his Experience. This largely entails, but is not solely limited to, -the Survival Aspects involved.

Kazinsky too, -the Unibomber, -similar Disapprovals, and less "Admiration", -but it's got to be said that he built one heck of a Perfectly Concealed Shelter!

We can learn some Good Survival Tips and Pointers from these guys, -while yet Disapproving of the actually Wrong and Objectionable things as they did.

How do some of you View and Rate these guys, -or others like them, -as regards at least their Survival Experiences and Aspects? [color:"black"] [/color] [email]ScottRezaLogan[/email]

Scott, The 'social bandit' has always appealed to a part of society that feels some grievance against the government or other social powers. It goes back to Gilgamesh and the Wildman, Robin Hood and to another contemporary 'hero' Claude Dallas. Claude was a wannabe trash trapper- ersatz cowboy who angered ethical trappers and eventually murdered two Fish and Game officers effecting his arrest for poaching. Our 'mountain man' or 'last buccaroo' hid out with the active help of some community members with a like disdain for authority. Rudolf as well enjoyed logistical support from his peers. Claude got recaptured in a convenience quickiemarket in- Southern California and old Rudie was what, dumpster diving? There are folksongs playing the bars in the Owyhee Range romanticising Claude and no doubt some sister with her hands upraised to the heavens is suppressing lustfull thoughts of bearing Rudolph's 12 children while the guitar player sings his praise. I dismiss them both as a Christian, as a sometime cowboy and most firmly as a advocate of being prepared in urban and wilderness emergencies. There are countless examples of people who have survived greater odds, the jewish resistance fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto, Shackelton's epic voyage, The fellow pilot Saint-Exupery wrote ever so briefly about climbing out of the Pyrenee Mountains after a crash and countless others. Rudolph and Claude deserve the further punishment of being ignored and rejected by the society they treated with the same disdain.

And here I thought he meant "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

SO DID I !

Sue

Chris: Well said. BTW, which Saint Exupery text is that in? I don't recall it.

Wind,Sand and Stars

I met Gene Autrey a few times and he mentioned a very serious inquiry about it being a secret PHRASECENSOREDPOSTERSHOULDKNOWBETTER. codesong from some congressman. He had good company later with Puff,the Magic Dragon. Louie Louie and Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

"How do some of you View and Rate these guys, -or others like them, -as regards at least their Survival Experiences and Aspects?"

I think there is an enormous difference between a person who successfully survives a bad wilderness experience and one who manages to avoid dying in the wilderness in spite of circumstances they themselves deliberately created. I have a great deal of admiration for the former and contempt for the latter--and, in the case of Rudolph, Dallas, and Kaczinsky, a large measure of loathing as well.

Regards, Vince

Remember that he had a large number of people who agreed with his position and were willing to support his efforts to evade capture. I recall reading an article soon after the capture in which some survival guru (I think it was Tom Brown) visited the camp and deduced that Rudolph had not spent as much time there as he claimed. The deduction was based upon such things as the depth of coals in the firepit, amount/age of debris in the garbage pit, and wear patterns on vegetation / paths.

This leads one to wonder just how much time Rudolph spent in the woods at all, as opposed to bunking with one of his supporters. Since this could lead to an obstruction charge against anyone who harboured him, it's not likely Rudolph will tell because - whether you agree with him or not - he sure seems to live by his own moral code.

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