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#43514 - 07/11/05 05:57 AM "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
Todd W Offline
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Registered: 11/14/04
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Loc: Mountains of CA
In case you can't stay at home for safety reasons or you decide to bugout what is your 'escape' vehicle?

I`ve gone over this scenerio a lot... crowded roads, no one's getting anywhere... what do you do to 'escape' whatever is going on?

It must be able to carry 2-3 people and go atleast 150 miles so dirtbikes (2 stroke atleast) and quads are almost out of the question.

I`ll go first.

My jeep.
Why?
It's made to traverce rocks, I`ve beat the living crap out of it and poored more money into it to make it stronger and not break easily at all. It can be driven off the road so I don't have to stay on highways. It has enough gas to get me into the mountains or whichever way I need to go. I have used it enough camping I know how much I can pack into it. It has a CB Radio tuned and ready for use at a moments notice, it has enough spare parts to replace most common breakages on the trail and on the road. Beadlocked tires so I can continue driving on a flat, tires that have handled the sharpest rocks off-road, on board engine driven air compressor (numerous uses). Safety! It has a custom fullbuilt rollcage and can sustain a rollover. The jeep has lockers, protection, etc.. etc.. etc..

Things I want to add.
-Winch (Yes I should already have one!)
-Ready Welder (Welder that uses 1-3 batteries, portable MIG)
-5gallon water tank (I`ll be making this)

The jeep has enough food and water to last atleast 2 days for myself all the time - and normally I forget and leave gear in it with more water and jerky...

So what's your bugout vehicle, and what do you want to add?

I will be trading in my little car to get a F250 diesel... this will be what I drive daily and would also work as it will be prepared with extra fueltank, equipment, slightly larger tires (35"), lockers front and rear... better off-road than my current MR2.


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#43515 - 07/11/05 12:46 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
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Bicycles. If the roads are screwed then the roads are screwed. There's almost no place around houston even where I could travel a considerable distance without roads. I'd run into rivers or large forests or other barriers that simple wouldn't be passable in a vechicle. Bicycles, trailer for the kids and a bit of gear. I know I can comfortably do 50 miles a day with this type of setup and likely much more if under duress. If the main roads are screwed then people will start hitting the side roads, bottlenecks will be at bridges, if you can cross the bridge due to traffic then you're stuck, this seems to be the case almost everywhere I've been in north america, doesn't really matter what vechicle you drive.

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#43516 - 07/11/05 04:37 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
wolf Offline
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Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 329
Loc: Michigan
I have an older Jeep Cherokee. If I had the financial resources I'd give it a small lift and much better, slightly larger tires, a winch and water / gas carriers on the rear. Inside I always have 2-5 gallons of water, blankets, some tools, rope, trioxane / trioxane stove, medium sized PSK (I had a good BOB in it, but it got broken into and...), gloves, fleece jacket, a couple tarps, a few power bars, extra stuff for the dogs (leashes, tie outs, collars, bowels) and other misc. stuff.
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#43517 - 07/11/05 04:55 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
reconcowboy Offline
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Registered: 03/01/05
Posts: 170
Loc: Ohio
I have two Trek full suspension mountain bikes. I have a rear rack that holds my bug out bag. I am waiting to get a set of front pannier bags for each bike. I was thinking about a bag for the handlebars to hold a sleeping bag. We have been talking about getting a trailer to go on the back of each bike to fit the kids in with a bag in each one as well. I am still checking on those though. I have borrowed a few and I like them but I need to really test one out and see if I can break it. I want to buy one first as I don't want to break someone elses. I ride my bike to and from work and everywhere we go, the wife takes the kids and I ride. Sometimes my son rides with me.

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#43518 - 07/11/05 04:56 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
norad45 Offline
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Registered: 07/01/04
Posts: 1506
I'm a bit surprised that you eliminate quads based on their range. I can generally get 60 miles on one tank, more if I stay out of 4WD and avoid full-throttle, and it's an easy matter to strap a gas can or two to the rack. I have a rear cargo bag that incorporates an extra seat in case I need to haul a passenger. If it becomes impossible to shelter-in-place and the condition of the roads are such that I can't take my full-size rig (a Dodge 2500 V10 w/ shell), then you can bet we're taking the ATV's.

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#43519 - 07/11/05 05:17 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
My 15.2 H, bloodbay quarterhorse Martin Pauley. Marty is one true horsepower, runs on bio fuel, is trained for drive by shootings and watches THE ELECTRIC HORSEMAN with me when it's on. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#43520 - 07/11/05 05:42 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
lazermonkey Offline
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Registered: 12/27/04
Posts: 318
Loc: Monterey CA
I have my S-10 Blazer 4X4. I live in an area were the roads will not be impassable even if every one is trying to leave. Although I will be moving to the coast for school so I do not know what challenges that will arise. I like it because it is small, so it can get into tight places. On a full tank I can get 300 miles on roads. I need to find a way to improve to mpg or increase fuel capacity. It holds 4 people; well it has four seat belts. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> It is ready to go for just me and I have extra pre-packed bag that I can through in for extending my stay or number of people. It has a roof rack which can hold a lot.
I was wondering if anyone had ideas to increase my mpg or fuel capacity? Please keep in mind I am a student so money is an issue, but all suggestions are welcome.
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#43521 - 07/11/05 06:17 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
Your least expensive option is to acquire some jerry cans. This is problematic in California, as they are not longer sold because of safety and vapor loss regulations. Try to find a few at least. You may want to tape, or paint WATER on the cans to deter theft. Remember also, that in any vehicle the more stuff you load the lower the mileage. Everyone overlooks what my Chicano friend Estaban calls his 6' gasolina credit card, aka my 'leettle rubber hose' We once syphoned gas from his car, a beautifully restored 64 Impala into my Mini Cooper S. The apartment insecure security guard called the police. The officer was not amused. "Son ( to the guard) whats wrong with this picture? the Homeboy is taking gas OUT of his car, not putting it IN!" <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Then Ihad to explain how anyone could run a mini out of gas to begin with. It's hard, but can be done <img src="/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

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#43522 - 07/11/05 06:19 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
cedfire Offline
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Registered: 07/10/03
Posts: 659
Loc: Orygun
Honda Accord for now. While I can't go off-roading, I make up for that with 34mpg on the highway.

If it gets to the point where an improved dirt road and a 2WD vehicle can't get me somewhere secluded on public land, I'd be ditching the car at a trailhead anyway and shouldering the backpack. (If TSHTF scenario).

Ideal BoB vehicle would be a large 4WD SUV. And a gas tanker to follow me.

I've also been thinking about purchasing a few rural acres within range of 1/2 of my gas tank (~250 miles). This would serve as my own vacation spot first, and as a bug-out location second.

Lastly, there's always the bike in the garage if I want to bug-in locally and not waste gas.

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#43523 - 07/11/05 06:25 PM Re: "Survival Vehicle" What do you have?
Todd W Offline
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Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1928
Loc: Mountains of CA
Yeah... you can get 'water cans' at wal-mart still but they are not labeled gas. 4WheelParts & CEntral 4wd sell Jeryy Cans for gas/water still too, pricey but they do. I have 2 w/a rack for a ice chest on the rear of the jeep.

About the quad... you mentioned 60 miles on 1 tank, then you coudl carry more gas and refuel.... Could you safely go 150 miles a day without worry of burning up the motor? I don't know much about quads so I`m curious.
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