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#43482 - 07/11/05 04:20 AM War of the Worlds
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War of the Worlds,


I just saw it, I would say it is a interesting survival scenario.

He had 60 seconds to plan, grab gear and evacuate his family.


Who saw it and what would you do in 60 seconds?


Tell me all the obstacles and challenges you think would face before you give your equipment list, okay.




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#43483 - 07/11/05 04:49 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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Haven't seen it yet. I hear it is more first person perspective than the original. Sounds like it is worth seeing.

Having worked out escape scenarios for back home long ago, I've thought of ways to avoid the obvious traffic snafus, so it is just a matter of coming up with a one minute drill. If the family is all together at home, which isn't too likely anymore, then we could pretty much load the burb with everything we need in that time. With just me and the wife, we might not get it all, but we'd have a darned good start. One obstacle to deal with is the human element.

Perhaps first on the list is weapons. I wouldn't be grabbing all of mine, but I would grab the mini-14s, the bag O' mags, the shotguns, the 30-30, the Glock, the Taurus, the Ruger 10/22, and maybe the browning 7mm mag. That will kill 30 seconds for me. The wife will grab clothes, that kills 30 seconds for her.

I will then grab the two grub boxes and two dutch ovens, she will grab the water. I will grab the tent, she will grab the sleeping bags. I will grab the tool box, she will grab the chainsaw and gas can. On our way out the door, we grab our BOBs and our minute is done. The grub boxes contain all my cooking utensils, coffee pot, and basic food items (flour, sugar, coffee, oil, baking powder, spices, noodles, various dried beans, papertowels, soap, TP, enough food for two people for two weeks basically). The tool box contains all the basic wrenches, sockets, pliers, screwdrivers, DMM, wire ties, wire, tape, hammers, nails, screws, etc. I keep the gas tank in the burb pretty much full since it doesn't get driven all that much, and I have an offroad path to a secluded location in the cascades where there are more supplies and a cabin and a complex cave network to go hang out in. If I drive hard, I can be there in less than three hours on backroads no one else is likely to be on, let alone know about. I have alternate locations to head to as well, depending on what seems the best route away from the trouble.
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#43484 - 07/11/05 05:35 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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Id grab bags and bags of the cheap antidepressant drugs the canadian spammers are trying to sell me. Then I'd throw them at Tom Cruise when he comes on screen. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#43485 - 07/11/05 05:46 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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This post gives me an idea: how about a "dry run" and giving one's self a set time amount (5 minutes, 10 minutes, etc.) on a kitchen timer and seeing just what can be packed up to either hoof it out by foot or by acceleration pedal.

Hmm... now I know what I'm doing next weekend!

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#43486 - 07/11/05 06:08 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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A case of water, bug out box, maybe some clothes on my way out... Really 60 seconds is pretty long if you are prepared. You should be able to say my family (if you live with/have) and keys and you are out but in reality you could grab items on your way out that would help.... All depends if you are driving, walking, etc.. Each scenerio is different.
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#43487 - 07/11/05 06:59 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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Registered: 06/16/05
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If I had 60 seconds and absolutely had to haul buns, assuming I'm already dressed:
(1) Grab .38 and some extra shells. The .38 goes in back pocket, shells go in edc bag.
(2) Tie light goretex parka around waist, don ballcap, throw edc bag on shoulder, grab a couple liters of water.
(3) Exit.
(4) If taking the truck, add 1 shotgun.
Were I not already dressed, I'd light a smoke, heat up a cup of coffee and wait for the end. When not at work, I hate to be rushed. It's a personality quirk -- what can I say?


Edited by MGF (07/11/05 09:11 AM)

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#43488 - 07/11/05 02:06 PM Re: War of the Worlds
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This is a very tough problem because he just does not have to contend with the a normal survival situation.

Problems to over come:

EMP pulse weapon that wiped out all electronics.
No communications.
Can't drive on most roads.
There are roaming mobs to deal with.
A whole social economic break down of society (total chaos).
A superior enemy of which he knows nothing about.
An enemy that destroys everything in sight; people, buildings, cities.
An instant mad max scenario.
A short term situation is now a long term situation.


He was so traumatized by the savagery and the suddenness of the ordeal that he gave his son a cardboard box told him to fill it, so his sonfilled it with a full bottle of ketchup, a full bottle of mustard, bottle of Tabasco sauce etc.




Solutions:

Sixty seconds is not enough unless you are prepared in advance and physically train and work out a long range plan. This is providing you can get out of the city alive.
Most kits are designed for 2 days to 2 weeks, but this is nowhere adequate for this scenario. Thank god this is just a fictitious story.

So what would be in your long term kit?

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#43489 - 07/12/05 03:40 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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Hmm, sounds like you've been to a few Rocky Horror nights. <img src="/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#43490 - 07/12/05 03:50 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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Maybe not too far from plausible scenario, at least when you consider most of urban America is still targetted by ICBMs. If you see my initial post, you will find that I have planned to overcome most of the problems you listed. EMP might still get my old burb in trouble if it is close enough, but even if I can't leave town, I would still be one of the last men standing. I know, not much point, but as long as you are alive, you have a chance. If nothing else, I know where I can get my hands on an old panhead and me and the old lady can cruise the backroads to the cabin with just our BOBs and pistols, and maybe a shotgun, and maybe one of the mini-14s, and maybe.....
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#43491 - 07/12/05 04:01 AM Re: War of the Worlds
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Just one thing about this movie, which I didn't even like... <img src="/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I thought they got some details exactly right, ranging from the 60 second evacuation to the fact that so much of the danger was from other survivors. Disasters bring out both the both and the worst in people.

In 60 seconds, we'd grab the bug out bags (clothes, supplies and a week's worth of food for two) and the dog, and then run to the truck, which has dog food and other supplies. Now, where we'd go from there I can't quite tell you... <img src="/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

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