Are you sure that these lighters are way ahead of a bow drill?<br><br>Lighters need maintenance (refuling) sparking devices.... Sure they are fast and convenient, and I use them, but I also use a bow drill. What knowing the drill does for me is give me total freedom to have fire anyplace and time I want. Many years ago I decided I wanted a freedom from material things which are common to man. I wanted to go naked into the woods, with nothing at all. I learned and tried and failed and relearned and tried untill I got it right. With nothing I can go into the woods any time I want and come back fed dresssed, and be well....... One ting though.... I was never able to keep the best fashions from Paris.... seems the furs i was getting were not of the same quality somehow...and the bark clothing while functional was funny indeed to see! Mac