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#42464 - 06/26/05 10:55 PM How to use a flint
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I just bought a little emergency tool with a flint on it and I was wondering how to use it. Could someone please check out the website and tell me if it will really work?

http://www.coghlans.com/home.html
go to "signalling devices"
THe thing I got is the orange 5-in-1 survival aid.

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#42465 - 06/27/05 12:36 AM Re: How to use a flint
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 835
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
I've got that, I didn't like it.

It's not actually a flint, it's a ferrocerium rod, and rather a tiny one. What you do is hit it with a sharpened piece of hard steel, such as a knife. Try it with the back of your knife first, no sense dulling your knife if you don't have to. But you'll probably have to use the sharpened side. Some people carry a piece of hacksaw blade for this purpose. You should see a spark when you strike it. When you know you can produce a spark reliably, get some dry tinder, kindling, and the rest of your fuel, and try to aim the spark at the tinder. When it catches a spark it will ignite, then you can add more tinder and then kindling, and fuel when appropriate.

It's much easier with a bigger ferrocerium rod, like the one on the edge of the magnesium firestarter you can also get from coghlans.
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#42466 - 06/27/05 01:20 AM Re: How to use a flint
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
I got a Coghlan orange match safe similar to the one you bought with the small ferrocerium rod. I managed easily to ignite a cotton ball by using the teeth of a hacksaw blade. I had to place it really close to the cotton ball and give a quick strike.

BTW according to my experience these orange match safes from Coghlan are not watertight unless you change the mediocre O-ring. Put a match in it and submerge it in a glass of water for 30 min and you'll see if your match is dry or not.

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#42467 - 06/27/05 01:51 AM Re: How to use a flint
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How exactly did you strike it?

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#42468 - 06/27/05 02:01 AM Re: How to use a flint
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
Ferroceriums rod do work and they work quite well even. However, in general, the larger they are the more effective they are. That one is quite small and that may bring up some difficulties.
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#42469 - 06/27/05 04:22 AM Re: How to use a flint
Frankie Offline
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Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
HappyCamper, I made a mpeg video for you. It's rather dark but hopefully it will give you an idea. You basically have to touch the cotton ball with the rod and apply a pressure with the teeth on the rod and then rub it quickly.

http://membres.lycos.fr/frankieboy/index.html
http://membres.lycos.fr/frankieboy/matchsafe.mpeg

Frankie

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#42470 - 06/27/05 04:32 AM Re: How to use a flint
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Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 577
I got one that came in a cheapo nalgene bottle knockoff survival kit. I wasn't able to get the tiny rod to spark at all.

I don't know if it was the Coghlans or not, but it looks the same. The rod is glued onto the side though, instead of on the end like in the video in the reply below


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#42471 - 06/27/05 08:13 AM Re: How to use a flint
Raspy Offline
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Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 351
Loc: Centre Hall Pa
The only thing nice I can say about any coghlans gear is that is cheap and found most any where. Other than that I concider it junk. While inexpensive it is far to costly. I would rather spend a bit more and get something that works when it is needed. While I can't say it is so of all their products. Everyone of them that I have seen or operated just wasn't worth the price, effort trying to use or the weight of carrying it.
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#42472 - 06/27/05 01:39 PM Re: How to use a flint
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Registered: 08/28/04
Posts: 835
Loc: Maple Grove, MN
Burncycle, I bought several match cases with a bar or flint on the side or end. I remember on one of them it wasn't a ferrocerium rod, it was actually made of the material you use to strike matches on. Red phosporus, I think. Can't strike a spark on it, but you can light safety matches on it.
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#42473 - 06/27/05 04:17 PM Re: How to use a flint
brian Offline
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Registered: 07/28/04
Posts: 1468
Loc: Texas
I have encountered one good Coghlans product... their windproof/waterproof matches.
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