Ill discuss this with Doug. Perhaps a third forum dedicated to a few complete units, photos and detailed descriptions ( I still find Doug's the best.). Doug is very busy and travelling right now so be patient. The problem I see is limiting this to someones Altoid tin. I suspect we are a lot like the movie cliche of the hero disarming. You know, multiple handguns, grenades, brass knuckles and knives from every pocket and hat.